joke about trump s false claims of a stolen election. the messages go to questions of criminal intent and whether trump and his inner circle knew biden won. it s also worth noting, those messages first showed up as part of the january 6th committee s final report. just as the federal statute cited in the target letter to donald trump, deprivation of rights, conspiracy to defraud the united states, and witness tampering echo parts of the committee s criminal referral. we believe that the evidence described by my colleagues today warrants a criminal referral of former president donald j. trump. title 18 section 1512-c, which make it unlawful for anyone to corruptly obstruct any official proceeding. crime to conspire to defraud the united states. knowingly and willfully make materially false statements to the federal government.
not as a coequal branch of government but as an extraordinary nuisance and one he wanted to find any way to get rid of. there were actual discussions about sending legislation to capitol hill to do gerrymandering to get rid of courts that are problematic. right now i m in california where donald trump s most annoying court, the ninth court of appeals is one he wanted to get rid of. he ordered stephen miller and officials to draft legislation. if you think republicans thought that was crazy, you would be wrong. because what happened is several republicans did get excited about the idea. it didn t take off, but i feel very confident that if there was a maga majority in the house and senate and we have trump return, they would do judicial gerrymandering, get rid of courts that tend to rule against them. even worse than that, katie, were discussions around simply ignoring the courts altogether. you re a lawyer and i m not. were the president of the united
prevagen. at stores everywhere without a prescription. back with the criminal probes into donald trump. and new signs that special counsel is following at least some of the road map laid out by the january 6th committee. this week, for example the washington post reports that jack smith s team is scrutinizing text messages from mark meadows in which he, quote,
trump s legal in the state of georgia. georgia state prosecutors are zeroing in on specific charges, including solicitation to commit election fraud and conspiracy to commit election fraud. joining me now to kick the show off is barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney and msnbc analyst, and michael steele, former rnc chair and msnbc political analyst. jack smith has been talking to richard donoghue. when i heard that news, my spidey sense started to tingle more than usual. he s already spoken with the jan 6th committee. what does that tell you about the depth and breadth of jack smith s investigation? he s at the center as a witness, not a defendant himself of donald trump s efforts to use the justice department as a weapon in this case. you may recall there was that letter jeffrey clark drafted and
opinion, he should be prosecuted. he should be prosecuted. [ chanting drain the swamp ] hmm. that was donald trump hammering my next guest, former trump homeland security official miles taylor. he shook the political world and the trump administration with a 2018 new york times article, published anonymously with the headline, i am part of the resistance inside the administration. now taylor is without with a new warning about a potential second trump term. his new book blowback , portrays a trump hell bent on undermining democracy and determined to do it if given a second chance. it echoes trump as plans to consolidate pow per re-elected. trump allies plotting a sweeping election of presidential power over the machinery of government, reshaping the structure of the executive branch to concentrate far