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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:10:00

on a defendant if they have one federal count against them. one state count against them. donald trump has 91. despite his bravado and bluster, that is pretty crushing for him. so, you know, cheseboro is talking about moving quickly in georgia. i m wondering how quickly jack smith can move. you know, he s talking about a january case. what do you expect on monday? that may be the most significant hearing we have as far as setting a date in that case that should be able to move pretty darn quickly. yeah, joe, i agree with what lisa said at the top of this segment. in some ways, monday is the whole ball game. i do think in federal court in general, things can move quickly if they are streamlined. and as we ve said before, jack

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:13:00

this time only plans to try cheseboro. i think he is intending to hear from others. will others be prepared to go to trial? the fact that there is an october 23rd date for at least one defendant also increases the pressure on certain of the other co-defendants who might be thinking about whether this is the time to cooperate. that is time pressure on them now they didn t have a few days ago. certainly for the jenna ellises of the world and the minor co-defendants here, they might be thinking about, if i can t sever my case, i can t show that i would be prejudice by having to go to trial in october, am i better off pleading out, lowering my legal costs, and either lowering my criminal exposure overall by trying to cut a deal with fani willis and her team now, willie? there is so much going on. the house judiciary committee is launching an investigation into fulton county district attorney fani willis, questioning her, quote, motivations for prosecuting former president

Transcripts for CNN CNN News Central 20240604 18:13:00

co-defendants together. typically when you have co-defendants who are all listed in the same indictment, that is how it would go unless the co-defendants could do severance, separate themselves from the case and other co-defendants. so we know from filings with president trump after cheseboro made this motion for a speedy trial and judge mcafee set the date, trump said he does not want to go to trial that soon. i am expecting that other co-defendants don t want to go to trial that soon either. usually judges, whenever a defense attorney or defendant says we won t be ready for trial at that expedited rate, a judge will take that seriously. and if these co-defendants or trump make motions to sever, i

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:05:00

joe s point, the avalanche of criminal charges, the dizzying array of proceedings. it s hard for people to get their arms around this. most of us have never been defendants in a single white collar criminal indictment, let alone four. these cases, they take a lot of mental energy to devote to defending oneself, even if you re not devoting substantial time to your own defense. you have to be in courtrooms. even though the co-defendant, cheseboro, asked for a speedy trial, and the d.a., fani willis, said she s ready to go to trial in october, donald trump isn t going to do that. nobody i talked to thinks this is going to be the first or even the second case to go to trial among the four. but on monday, guys, in washington, d.c., there s going to be a hearing before judge tanya chutkan. she is going to set a trial date in the other election interference case brought by jack smith, and that s the one most people i talk to think may

Transcripts for CNN CNN News Central 20240604 18:06:00

i mean, you know, fani willis initially said she wanted to try all 19 defendants, including the former president together. now we re seeing this fracturing of defendants with cheseboro saying i want it quick, i want it under the speedy trial act. it s likely we could see all sorts of trial dates and they won t be as quickly as october. and we have all these other legal hearings, trial start dates. right now on the calendar we re seeing that the new york attorney general s trial is slated to start in early october. then you ve got maybe the georgia trial in late october, and january 2nd of next year, another cascade of trials. if the special counsel gets his way, he ll start january 2nd. the hearing to decide the trial start date in that case, in the election subversion case is on

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