let me show you both what he wrote in the book. page 61 of his book called fed up. perry writes ponzi schemes like the one that send bernard madoff to prison are illegal in this country for a reason. they re fraudulent systems designed to take in a lot of money at the front and pay out none in the end. this is unsustainable fiscal insanity. it can hear them cheering in primaries, but in general elections turning away from that message. it s a problem, the way he s phrasing this is a problem. people in general can be sold a message that there can t be something in this generation, but that s not what s being framed, it s being framed as fraudulent. this is not necessarily going to play in iowa, but this is providing a ton of opposition for the democrats in general. wayne, did he know he was running for president when he wrote that book? i m not sure that s the order in which it happened in governor
and that s to protect people. instantly after that the press corps started getting the calls, getting the same message i got. which meant that a lot of people would be watching my reactions to this crises. so i made the decision not to jump up immediately. now, i didn t want to in the classroom i didn t want to rattle the kids. i wanted to project a sense of calm. there s a lot about which you can criticize the president. a cheap shot at those who isolated, ran a stop watch how long to react to the that moment. quick response. at that point in time, he had no idea what the nature of the attack was. whether it was two plane, four, 16. whether they were dirty bomb. other things that would happen. listen, it s not too hard to stand up if you re the president of the united states and say, excuse me. something s come up. i have to attend to it. i ll come back later to finish the book. right. not as if he was in the back of
fact, it s what it you know, somebody telling history. what the former vice president is trying to do though, mike, is set the stage for history. not so much whether or not there s a spat on the sunday shows or this week or next with colin powell. you know, this book is not a it is to advise history, one other thing is, not only a record that he s laying down in his book. these interviews themselves. what he did with nbc. what he ll do tomorrow on fox, on his book tour, these parallel history. all of these interview are part of the record. if indeed he s telling the truth, the interesting thing about this discrepancy, so happens, coincidentally, i m sure, in cheney s account, he s the central figure in the decision. not the president. but the president asks him, what should happen. and the president s account, it s more of a group endeavor. but the central truth is that
perry s case. he did not know he was going to run for president when he wrote the book. he wrote the book last year, it was published about nine, ten months ago, and when it came out he told me and other reporters in austin, this is evidence i was not going to run for president. if i were going to run for president i wouldn t say these things, so he didn t think he was going to run for president. he laid down the marker. he was going to be the big, strong republican governor s association voice against washington and the barack obama administration, and now, couple few months later he s running for president and has to either face the music or disown what he said. wayne, one followup with you, has he always been a 10th amendment guy and talked about the state s rights not enumerated to the federal government? certainly not the way he does now. he s a conservative guy and the 10th amendment is something philosophically and politically
state caucus goers and voters is he is what he says he is, he is a blank slate, they don t know very much about him. they are going to learn a lot going forward. that s why it s such a question right now of mitt romney and the democrats, how soon do you start to define rick perry, the time will start running out and stories like the new york times story is a good road map for that. wayne slater, best thing he has going for him is outsiders from the state and george w. bush and the worst thing he has going for him is his resemblance of george w. bush. that s absolutely right, and i think he really has to worry i know they ve worried about this on the inside. that s part of the reason if you read the book fed up he s saying all the places on fiscal policy where he differs sharply from george w. bush. bush spent too much money and was not a fiscal conservative.