perry's case. >> he did not know he was going to run for president when he wrote the book. he wrote the book last year, it was published about nine, ten months ago, and when it came out he told me and other reporters in austin, this is evidence i was not going to run for president. if i were going to run for president i wouldn't say these things, so he didn't think he was going to run for president. he laid down the marker. he was going to be the big, strong republican governor's association voice against washington and the barack obama administration, and now, couple few months later he's running for president and has to either face the music or disown what he said. >> wayne, one followup with you, has he always been a 10th amendment guy and talked about the state's rights not enumerated to the federal government? >> certainly not the way he does now. he's a conservative guy and the 10th amendment is something philosophically and politically