going to be a man. how did he break the news to his mother cher. chaz bono, his first prime time interview. this is piers morgan tonight. chaz bono tells his story in transition, the story of how i became a man and in the documentary becoming chaz which airs on own network. i have to start by saying i watched you on david letterman last night. one of the most amusing encounters i have seen on a talk show in years. he was so uncomfortable. he didn t know how to deal with what you were telling him, the enormity of what you had gone through. what was it like for you when you went on there? i had a really good time. i like dave a lot. i have always been a fan and he has a history with my family. so i wanted to go on the show. he represented a lot of people who really don t know about this issue. it gave me a great opportunity to break it down, you know, really simply kind of do a trance gender 101. i was happy to do it. tell me this when he began laughing at what yo
little while in california. we had a window. we had a window. i knew at that point that i was going to transition and it just didn t feel right to me to get married as two women because i didn t feel i was a woman. seems to me that you ve been using a lot of excuses to avoid taking jennifer down an aisle. and she s made it absolutely crystal clear. right? he s now behaving like a typical man. which in a way the quite comforting. is there a window here that we re talking about? there s no ultimatum. i mean, i m here, we re here. we ve been through a lot. within a year? yeah, it really has not to make excuses but we went through a lot. i transitioned, she went to grad school. then, you know, we were making the film and i wrote the book. i had to get sober again. it was a nightmare. now i feel like once this is over we can sit down and plan a wedding. that will be some wedding, do you think? i hope so.
chaz, i think you re an amazingly courageous man. thank you. i think you re an amazingly courageous woman. thank you. and i think you ve been an amazing stepmother. and the whole story i find uplifting. the fact that you re now happy and you re happy makes me happy and makes everybody happy. and if you re not happy you re a cynic and you don t deserve happiness. thank you for joining me and good luck with it all. i want to be at the wedding with my cameras recording every moment, live on cnn. fair enough? we ve got a deal. get her down the aisle, chaz. that s what guys have to do. thank you both very much. thank you. coming up, a tabloid scam that targeted the babies.
couple, and that have very similar circumstances to ours, and they are happily married now. is part of the reason that you feel able to deal with it, jennifer, is that he s happier in himself as a man than he was as a woman. and that affects everything. that affects our emotional connection, that affects our sex life, that affects everything. when you have a partner who is happy in their skin and happy in general, not depressed and feeling completely in the wrong body, it changes everything. and are you happy now or are you still slightly wrestling with what s going on? no, not at all. i m incred ubly happy and i feel really comfortable for the first time. i honestly didn t realize how difficult things were before until i had this to compare it to. the thing is i ve never met you before, but if i didn t know the story, you look like a guy. you re dressed well in a smart suit. a big bulky suit. that s great, piers. is that a patronizing thing
31, and i remember i was dating somebody who had a lot of lesbian friends. and so i was doing a lot of different going to a lot of social events. i can remember being at some big like house barbecue and there are a lot of lesbians around. i was kind of sitting back and watching and thinking and looking at everybody. and i realized that even the more masculine women there still had a really strong female identity. and it dawned on me that i never had that. and so at that point i started to think maybe i m not a lesbian. and if i m not, what am i? and at that point i started to go back over my whole life in my head and just put all of these different things together. we ll have a short break. when we come back, we ll get to the moment when you decide, i want to be a man. okay. we re also going to hear from nick cannon about an extraordinary scam targeting his wife mariah carey and their