and he broke free from that and he was going for the treatment and the testosterone and the hormone ps and he s becoming a man in front of your eyes, beginning to shave and you had your breasts removed and everything, so you re physically becoming a man, when you re seeing that process, what s going through your mind? was it concerning you? did you freak out? did you have arguments? there are two components. the physical and the emotional. the physical, the major change first was the top surgery. i was very nervous about that. i was very nervous about going to san francisco, that s where he did it. i had no idea how i would react. but to my surprise, i was thrilled. like i got it. when i saw his chest the way it looks now, i thought, oh, right, this makes sense. and i was surprised. i actually thought i might miss the other, but it worked. so physically there wasn t a problem. what about psychologically?
just kind of bland, really. i mean, it wasn t like a horrific dramatic experience in any way. it was just like why did you do that? to prove to yourself that you no, it wasn t, no. it was kind of immature, but i was only 16 at the time. so many people would say to me, because i was out to my friends and everything. and people when i would tell them, how do you know? you ve never been with a man. and so i wanted to do it so i could say i ve done it. i know. so you get to your late teens. you now assume that you re a lesbian. right. what is that like for you? as you go forward, you start to go out with girls, does that feel natural and normal to you at the time? it does, but there s an expectation of the girls that i m going out with, that i m supposed to act like a girl, too. and that felt weird. like in high school, i had some experiences with girls who were experimenting more and were
forget it. you know? so i get it. you know. i suppose it can be confusing to people. we are in a straight relationship. yeah, so the obvious question then becomes you ve been together six years now. six. will you get married? have you talked about it? i like to. will we, piers? will we get married? the gauntlet s been thrown down there. we ve been engaged actually for two years. i ve kind of had to put things on hold a little bit. the other thing is we both have been real i think the lady would like you to get off the she would. as a man, you don t have any excuse. no, i don t. the one thing we talked about a little bit is how we re big supporters of, you know, marriage equality. and that s kind of weird now, to be able to do that. are you legally now able to marry as a man and wife? we are, yes. and would you choose to do that?
you lucked out. talk about backing the winner. i know. yeah. i mean, i was you know, i am attracted to both men and women, but it is different to have that happen in the same person. when it came out of his come partmentallization, great word, and he broke free from that and he was going for the treatment and the testosterone and the hormone ps and he s becoming a man in front of your eyes, beginning to shave and you had your breasts removed and everything, so you re physically becoming a man, when you re seeing that process, what s going through your mind? was it concerning you? did you freak out? did you have arguments? there are two components. the physical and the emotional. the physical, the major change first was the top surgery. i was very nervous about that. i was very nervous about going to san francisco, that s where he did it. i had no idea how i would react.
become a man. and i said, we re good for now. i went back in the kitchen and went interest my day. i knew we would have to deal with this some day. the advantage of having you as a girlfriend, you re bisexual, correct? yes, that s correct. that s not conjecture, that s the fact. you would be the person who would potentially find him as attractive as a man as he was as a woman. the question to me is do you? i find him more attractive as a man. really? you lucked out. talk about backing the winner. i know. yeah. i mean, i was you know, i am attracted to both men and women, but it is different to have that happen in the same person. when it came out of his come partmentallization, great word,