travis did and greg did was just so reasonable. i m going to ask you, use your common sense and put your thinking caps on. but this is what i anticipate or we anticipate that they re going to say. the victim started it. or you re going to hear that he was the aggressor, because he was running towards travis mcmichael. but he was running away from mr. bryan, who had already tried to hit him with a pickup truck. and greg mcmichael said it. he was trapped like a rat. he knew there was nowhere else to go. or they re going to tell you that ladies and gentlemen, this is really about the front of the pickup truck. forget everything else. it was all about the front of the pickup truck. and they re going to try to make it seem like, well, he attacked travis mcmichael. he very well might have. we can t see. what we know is his hand was like this, right? doesn t matter. you know why it doesn t matter? because they weren t committing a citizen s arrest, they weren t in fear, real fear, of imminent
and later in interviewed at glynn county police department by parker marcy, that investigator told you here is his statement, here is what he told me, i watched him and when he came by me i got a good, really good look sat him so i mean it s the same guy. and it was ahmaud arbery on the video. he was an intruder. larry english had reported because he believed that an intruder had taken thousands of dollars of boat equipment off the off shore boat that had been parked in his rv parking garage. it was ahmaud arbery returning night after night without authority to a place where valuables were stored, with no
to anybody. a manager of a store, okay? it applies the same way. in other words, the reasonableness standard is set by society. you all decide whether this was reasonable or not. travis mcmichael s belief that he had to defense himself with lethal force has to be reasonable. so we ve got pointing a shotgun at mr. arbery when he was yards and yards we, had to be reasonable and necessary. but where was the unlawful force by mr. arbery. what s he doing? he s running away from mr. bryan s truck, mr. bryan who s already tried to hit him with the truck numerous times. he s trapped between two cars with no weapon, no way for anybody to help him, because there s nobody out there to help him. he s not threatening anybody. he s just running away from the man with the shotgun.
motive in testifying? yeah, he wants you to come back with a not guilty verdict. it s in his best interests. think about the probability or improbability of their testimony. i wondered why he was attacking that truck. on holmes, what are you talking about? i have no idea. do you understand what he was getting at? i guess we re back to ahmaud arbery is a carjacker. their interest or lack of interest in the outcome of the case means, do they have something to gain or lose by coming in here and making up a story for you? they personal credibility, as you observe it. that s for you to decide. not for the state to the decide, not for the defense to decide, for you to decide. did travis mcmichael have a motive to lie to you? did he have a motive to make up additional things that he had never said before? did he have a motive to embellish his testimony? did he have a motive to claim
he attacked him. i m not talking about mr. arbery attacking travis. all right, here s the concept of excessive fofrs. and this is a big one. because if you use excessive force during your self-defense, guess what? you re not justified, you re guilty. not justified, you re guilty. if you use excessive force. because it s force that exceeded what was reasonably necessary. you guys ever heard of the term, that saying, you can t bring a gun to a knife fight? it s unfair, right? you can t bring a gun to a fistfight. it s unfair, right? you can t use excessive force you can t call someone out and go, hey, buddy, let s take it outside, you re starting it. and when that person starts to beat you up and you re better than fight at you, you don t get to pull out a gun and shoot