defendants in a case. and i think that was an emotional plea for one juror to do something that she felt like would be something that that juror could hang their hat on. i thought it was just a horrible tactic, stooping very low, and i think it was if they truly were floored at this verdict, then they were more than miscalculating. there was almost malpractice in the way they handled the case if they were that floored about a verdict in this case with the way the everyday came out and the testimony and the pieces of the puzzle that that prosecutor put together. charles, i don t want to leave you out here, i want you to listen and respond to what we heard from robert reuben today. he is the defense attorney, by the way, for travis mcmichael. he had this to say. i don t think any single case is a referendum on the criminal justice system in america. this case was about these people
at this moment in time. we had good prosecutors, good defense lawyers, and a good judge all working hard to make sure justice occurred in this courtroom, and whether the verdict had been the way it went or had been the other way, not guilty, justice would have happened in this courtroom, and it doesn t speak about the larger problems in america. is he right? is there a larger message, charles? i think that he is right. i think that on a lot of ways, this is a conversation that has much, much, much greater implications than what happened in brunswick, georgia. i don t necessarily know that i would call it a referendum on the entire criminal justice system but i will say this, laura. we have been throwing the term justice around all day, and i find that to be deeply troubling and almost problematic because i want to make something clear, justice is not what we are talking about. we are conflating justice with accountability.
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due process, plus a fair trial, the idea of having jurors be able to deliberate based on what has been presented to them, charles, i mean, here s what lee merit, an attorney for ahmaud arbery s family said today. i want you to listen. i think what we witnessed was an anomaly, oh, my god, they got justice in this case, so that s not a good sign that people think that a case as open and obvious, one that was recorded on a bright sunday day and just last year that it was a big question mark, and there was a strong doubt that we would get justice. i mean, it s no wonder why they thought that justice was in doubt, right, charles, i mean, two different prosecutors refused to even charge these killers. one happens to now be under indictment for her alleged actions, and this came so close, frankly, to never being heard. imagine that.