because of what immigration experts call a perfect storm of catastrophes, the pandemic, the ensuing recession, and the war in ukraine, which choked off grain exports, in other words, food. almost nowhere has been hit harder than latin america, pushing millions to flee in search of not just a better life, but life period. couple that with what smugglers are doing to take advantage, and a fire hose of misinformation on social media, telling people that now is the time to come. and you get what we are seeing right now, a crisis at the border, but not just the border in cities like el paso, interior cities, including new york, say they are at capacity. what exactly does that mean? what exactly is being done, and what exactly is being blocked by lawmakers who arguably benefit from using immigration as a campaign talking point? joining me now is nbc news homeland security correspondent julia ainsley who s in el paso, texas, for us. so julia, you know this story, this subject in and
as a trump republican. reporter: do you agree with that assumption? i believe we should not be characterizing trump supporters, as white nationalists. julie tsirkin was trying to get clarification, for single handedly blocking military promotions in the senate. here s what he told wbhm. we are losing in the military so fast our readiness in terms of recruitments, and why, i can tell you why, because the democrats are attacking our military saying we need to get out the white extremists, white nationalists, people who don t believe in our agenda, as joe biden s agenda, they are destroying it. this year we will not reach any recruiting goals until the military, so if we want to talk about looking weak, that s where we re going to look weak.
slowly. i think you know, luke, what your reporting points out and bennie thompson is specific in the washington post interview from the holiday weekend. i am going the read some of this, about what the committee is examining specifically. quote, he wasn t telling people to go home, chairman thompson said characterizing trump s behavior that day. he wouldn t tell them that this is not the way to do it. so i think, since the taping was recorded at the white house, we will have access to it. the possibility of multiple recordings of a message from trump to his supporters has been discussed in interviews with several witnesses. according to a person familiar with the panel s work who spoke anonymously because he was not authorized to discuss details. a lot of people in that white house have testified. a lot of people in that white house have been examined by some of the great books that have been written in the last year including one of them that talked about the then-white house
done. one of the great things about our space program we were open about it. we said there was a man abaoard. we were open about it. this comes after cnn first reported that the white house chief of staff reince priebus asked fbi official to push back. that conversation started two stories administration objected to. one by new york times characterizing trump s campaign as intelligence officials. another cnn describing both sides as being in constant contact. glenn, this is your world of trying to figure out the stories. the white house, the old trick of flak erie, you deny the story. you say the story is inaccurate.