developments. such as, the chinese counterpart here, foreign minister, agreeing to antony blinken visit to come visit washington, agreeing to people-to-people contact, expanding passenger flights between the two country. these are kind of low-hanging fruit, you could argue, but the signs that as the state department officials have put it, that the talks, were, in fact, substantiative and constructive on this first day of discussions. one thing that appears not to have been mentioned is whether the top defense officials will be speaking to each other anytime soon. ivan watson, thank you very much for that report. more on this, let s bring in josh rogin, the author of the book, chaos under heaven, trump, xi, and the battle for the 21st century. josh, great to have you back. the biden administration, the
decided to do, but also u.s. officials say they haven t taken it off the table yet. we ll see if perhaps that s one of the outcomes of these meetings. thank you very much. jeremy, reminding us the sun is coming up. only time we get to see it when we go to a live shot to see what s happening. the sun is up. good to know. as we talk more about what the white house is watching this morning, xi and putin s second day of talks about to begin. the kremlin says the two leaders had a thorough exchange of views. that s the word they used. over more than four hours. and all of this m kos as the japanese prime minister travelled to kyiv to met with the ukrainian president zelenskyy there. joining us now for perspective is washington post columnist josh rogin, also the author of the great book chaos under heaven, trump, xi and the battle for the 21st century. good morning, josh. we have been watching this. you so closely watch every word these two leaders say given it s so highly choreog
sides of the front lines, showing their support for the different sides in this war. it shows you a little bit about how forces around the world have lined up in this terrible conflict. boris, jessica? a major split screen moment there in kyiv. ivan watson reporting from kharkiv, thank you. joining us to talk about all these developments and the bromance between xi and vladimir putin is josh rogin, a columnist for the washington post, and he literally wrote the book on u.s./china relations in this day and age. it s chaos under heaven: trump, xi and the battle for the 21st century. i know there was one specific statement from xi that caught your eye. when he talked about china being ready to stand guard over the world order. what was your impression of that? right, just the thought of it sends chills down my spine, boris. if you just imagine what the people in ukraine must be