bipartisaner. the incentive for the political class to run huge deficits. give people a dollar s worth of government, charge them 60 cents for it, borrow the money from the consenting unborn future generations that will not change. the retirement coming retirement of paul ryan simply underscores the fact that conservatism is now a persuasion without a party. where is it going? will there be a separate party. i don t think so. it s much too hard. valid access and all the rest. will the american people support impeachment if it s only about obstruction and not the underlying charge of collusion with the russians in the election. does mueller need that underpinning? i don t think the public will support it. 40% of the public will never support it because they re sort of core trump people. and the grown-ups in the democratic party, they re a vanishing few at the moment in
that would lead to impeachable offenses and we got permission to give that to the house judiciary committee which then reviewed it as it considered impeachment, voted articles of impeachment that led to the president resigning. so that is an alternative that cannot be taken away from the grand jury. they have that inherent power. it s a different kind of report than the legislation that creates the office of special prosecutor which is the confidential one. so it would be up to rosen tine as to what happens to it after it s given to him, but it wouldn t be if it s the grand jury s power. so even if mueller and rosenstein were fired, the grand jury doesn t go away and the grand jury has the power to issue that kind of a report setting out the facts. and i think it s very important for americans to get those facts. they need to know as do members of congress, what has the president done and is he guilty, is he fit to be president, and the only way to know that is
he didn t just fire comey because he felt like it because he can as president but that he did it in an intent to actually obstruct this case and to try to move it away from him. in this case, we want to see how mueller may be moving forward. we know these are four areas. there could be other areas. this was really what was overlapping. i was hearing these four areas. we know that mueller is someone who follows the book. he s going to most likely accepted a report which would be confidential to rod rosen tine. he would have to make the decision whether or not that goes to congress, whether or not it goes public and as brett was laying out, whether or not congress would move forward with impeachment. right now mueller is trying to gather everything he can to make this as hard of a case as possible. we know he has findings on these areas. we don t know what they are. there could be a scenario where he finds that some of the findings are actually excup
wavering republicans of whom there are an ever greater number, what happens in november and whether democrats can then move forward with a case for impeachment. i do think that the obstruction charge is likely to be the most damaging against the president because that s where it seems we have the greatest amount of evidence that the president tried to tamper with an investigation. that s probably what mr. mueller believes. that s why he s moving with it first. our other breaking story tonight. nbc news is reporting tonight that both mueller s prosecutors and trump s legal team are now proceeding with strategies that presume a presidential interview will not take place. will not take place. as a result, mueller has accelerated his timeline and may be able to close the probe more quickly for obstruction. three people familiar with the investigation tell nbc news mueller has collected findings on trump s attempts to obstruct justice which will be included
on. but in terms of the report, i think he s going to set out what are the facts about the various things that have happened, what are the facts about the firing of comey? maybe even the firing of sally yates before that. maybe about keeping flynn even when he knew the bad information that existed about flynn. it s going to include the false statement that was drafted to explain the meeting in trump tower in june. so there s a lot of elements of obstruction that could be just straightout facts. i think he will stick to the facts. and not draw conclusions that are of a bigger scene unless and until he indicts. phil rucker, when you read the comey book, do you sense an indictment, an implicit indictment of this president? well, chris, there s not if you re looking for comey to lay out sort of articles of impeachment, for example, you re not going to find that in the book. in fact, in the conclusion of the book, comey writes that he