colleague mr. castor s question that if you were asked to approach a foreign leader in condition american support on their being involved in our campaign that you would refuse to do that. yes. you are aware now, but i don t know if you were aware then, but that july 25th occurrence happened after director mueller directed that the interference was not from ukraine, it was acted concerted energetic and by the russians. correct? yes. now as ambassador, you had no knowledge of whatever it is president trump ultimately seems to have wanted to get for cooperation in this investigation, that is correct?
the time has expired, but i will allow you to repeat the question. maybe we can kind of see why the president was a little concerned when you have the highest ranking officials in the government. members lutsenko requesting it, when you have yanukovych criticizing. all of this going on, and then a couple that with the concerns of corruption and you re not doing enough, the concerns about the reluctance to get hard earned tax dollars i have indulged you with extra time, but the indulgence is running out. i appreciate it. our indulgence ran out for you a long time ago. i m about to gavel you down. i m asking her if there was a reason that president trump s concern was justified? you know, i cannot speak for the president on this. but what i would say is you
become a robust democracy? what is the impact in ukraine for this behavior? i think ukraine, like many countries looks to us for the power of our example. and i think that when we engage in questionable activities that raises a question. and it emboldens those who are corrupt who do not want to see ukraine become a democracy, a free market economy, a part of europe, but once ukraine to stay under russia s role. and that is not in our national security interests. thank you, ambassador yovanovitch. thank you so very much. i yield the balance of my time to the chair.
coming ambassador, with victoria nuland? or secretary of state perry about what was going on in 2016 and the ukrainian politicians being for candidate clinton and not and opposed to president trump? no, i did not. no one did anything? no one did anything? you see why maybe the president was a little concerned? about what went on in ukraine, and you couple that with the corruption level that we know exists in the ukraine. you add to that this idea that he is not a big fan of foreign aid, why he might be a little bit concerned about sending the hard earned tax dollars of the american people to the ukraine? i m sorry, was there a question there? there was. could you repeat it, please? i am asking
zelensky is sworn in? yes. so my question we talk a lot about rudy giuliani, do we know what officials within the zelensky regime he actually met with? i know two, a gentleman by yermak who was a senior adviser. and we know of the former attorney general that we have already established here, was corrupt lutsenko. and he served under mr. zelensky for a couple of months. until august? that is correct. and their parliament voted him out, is that correct? yes, that is right. so if rudy giuliani is trying to influence the zelensky regime, what a guy that worked under the previous regime under pershing company, would he be the right guy to do it? are you saying mr. lutsenko?