You are recognized. Thank you. Madame ambassador, like a hallmark movie. You ended up at georgetown, this is all okay. [laughter] but it was not your preference seven or eight months ago, correct . No, it was not. It was not your preference to be a victim of a Smear Campaign, was it . No. It was not your preference to be defamed by the president of the United States including today, was it . No. It wasnt your preference to be ousted at seemingly the pinnacle of your career, was it . No. You wanted to finish your extended tour, correct . I did. What did you want to do after that . Did you know . I was not sure. There is nothing wrong with georgetown, it is a fine place, right . It is a wonderful place. But it is your only choice at the end of a distinguished career after all of that. It is not the end of a hallmark movie. It is the end of a really bad reality tv show. Brought to you by someone who knows a lot about that. [laughter] why did you, you previously testified that you sought a
and so, i asked ambassador sondland who said that he, you know, he was a political appointee. he said he was close to the president. and so, he had just been in ukraine for a ship visit with some of his e.u. colleagues from brussels, so i reached out to him for advice. when this was no longer a ukraine kind of interview with mr. lutsenko, kind of ukrainian, but became sort of the american politicians and pendants, et cetera were repeating those allegations, i asked him for advice. it meant a lot to you. this is an extraordinary time. and the advice meant a lot. and what was his advice? well, he suggested that i needed to go big or go home. and he said that the best thing to do would be to, you know,
zelensky is sworn in? yes. so my question we talk a lot about rudy giuliani, do we know what officials within the zelensky regime he actually met with? i know two, a gentleman by yermak who was a senior adviser. and we know of the former attorney general that we have already established here, was corrupt lutsenko. and he served under mr. zelensky for a couple of months. until august? that is correct. and their parliament voted him out, is that correct? yes, that is right. so if rudy giuliani is trying to influence the zelensky regime, what a guy that worked under the previous regime under pershing company, would he be the right guy to do it? are you saying mr. lutsenko?
yes. did mr. lutsenko have much credibility within the zelensky regime? the current regime? i don t think so. he did not. and to do you know of any other ukrainians that mr. giuliani was meeting with that was part of the zelensky regime? just to her mind, i would have already left ukraine by that point. i m not aware. even with the administration to come. zelensky won the election, there was a two-month period of preparing to be installed in the president, even during that time, were you aware of any there is one of the oligarchs as we have heard about. one of the oligarchs is named, who met with mr. sherman and