trump to the doj? joining me now is washington post national reporter and msnbc contributor, carol lennig. it s like a ride down to the wire in the course of this very broad and very intense investigation. a lot of people burning the midnight oil to get this one finished. they have uncovered quite a bit. let s be fair. one of your great questions is the issue of whether or not to make criminal referrals. i will say what i have heard the lawmakers trying to forecast to us is how much evidence they feel they have gathered indicating donald trump actively was engaged in the conspiracy that was fraudulent. basically hoodwinking the public, and that conspiracy involved him and other allies. they did not say they were going
situation coming up a little later on in the program, but now to the january 6th committee. full speed ahead. it has invited the former president s eldest daughter ivanka trump to voluntarily testify in early february. the goal, to learn more about donald trump s actions and state of mind on january 6th. often it s believed she was the only other person in the room. nbc s ali vitali is on capitol hill, yamiche alcindor moderator of washington week on pbs, carol lennig for the washington post and co-author of i alone can fix it also here senior fbi official chuck rosenberg and stephanie which will boston coal could have former friend and advior to melania trump. ali, let s start with do we know this morning, has ivanka agreed to speak to the committee? reporter: we don t know that at this point, chris.
question, words like that, yes. so of course he would want to talk to either people in the room. ivanka trump was central to her father and to his administration, she was there when a lot of this stuff happened so it makes perfect sense for the committee to reach out to her and anyone else who was in the room. by the way, i should add, you know, i was a prosecutor for a long time. you never get everything that you want, memories fade, some witnesses refuse to testify, some documents are unavailable. that s perfectly normal. so it makes sense, too, for the committee to reach out to anyone and everyone who has relevant information in order to sort of build the best picture of what happened before, during and after that awful day. carol, i want to play part of what committee member laughren said to nicolle wallace yesterday about the importance of ivanka trump. take a listen. we have direct testimony that ms. trump went in multiple
there is no reason why she can t tell the committee what she saw and heard. she is not special in any way when it comes to doing her duty to the congress and to the country to tell the truth. whether or not she tells the truth, we shall see. we shall see. ali vitali, yamiche, carol, stephanie, thanks to all of you. chuck, you re going to stick around because this isn t the only investigation we are talking about this morning. in georgia the fulton county district attorney is requesting a special grand jury. she wants help with her office s investigation into former president trump s attempts to influence the vote count in her state. now, one key piece of that, the phone call from then president trump to the georgia secretary of state just days before the vote was certified. so, look, all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we
with him to his defense, but as politico reports today, pence s allies long believe trump played a role in the strategy and indicated trump was frustrated the justice department intervened to defend his vice-president against gohmert s suit, but unknown how involved he was in trump s legal strategy. representative jamie raskin called it a significant detail in that it was part of a plan to isolate and coerce pence. joining our conversation, carol lennig, author of the book i alone can fix it, georgetown law professor, both nbc contributors. so carol leonnig, when i read this, and i remember covering the gohmert suit at the time and i think there was a lincoln project ad that a lot of folks thought put it on trump s radar