so, that s what attracted you. 0k. you said you re working for a broad coalition for an ambitious global climate policy so that we can make groundbreaking decisions at the cop28 in dubai that, of course, is the un s global climate summit. so, what is ambitious look like to you? ambitious looks like a phase out of fossil fuels, the end of the fossil fuel era a clear signal on that. ambitious looks like a global renewable energy target with financing to go with it, an efficiency target to go with it and a transformational roadmap to close the gap. you know, we need to keep global average temperature from rising above a 1.5 degrees rise and so, we need a plan, we need an action plan, and that s what we want to achieve with the finance for developing countries to make that possible. all right, so you say an end to fossil fuel, you know, phasing that out. so, does it worry you, then, that cop28 is not only being hosted in the uae the united arab emirates but it s chaired by the
to be thinking of everything. now the heating of buildings discussion, what we are looking about is how do we have climate, low carbon housing, what are the support mechanisms for low income? what are the incentives? you have a long way to go, even the greens environment minister says we need to explain more and better. absolutely. finally, jennifer morgan, you have made the shift from being an activist into politics as the german special envoy on climate action. you said this position gives me a set of tools, myjob is not to demand action from others but to act and achieve results? how would the activist rate you as a kind of politician? i think the activist would rate the politician i m still an activist as working hard, making it happen, having to make compromises along the way, but making a difference where germany is respected as moving forward and it s the core of our economic policy and that s where it needs to be. you don t think that activists in climate are perhaps
for the world to put the money in when they have demonstrated in the last a0 years they have only put a fraction in? we re not, we re not. there is no money, it is not coming? there is money, it is coming and you can look at, for example, this last year, we worked with other countries to work with indonesia, right? that decided that they were going to peak their coal seven years earlier, they were going to double their renewable energy target and therefore we put a package on the table, for them to be able to do that and have the confidence to do that. we ve done a similar thing with the vietnam, where g7 countries, it s a new model. because it s clear we have to change things, it s clear it s not moving fast enough and that s a big priority of germany because we have been leading on climate finance, but we also, next year. how much have you put in? you ve put a couple of billion into this new climate fund? so we have a commitment to have a 6 billion commitment by 2025,
implementation on climate is an example of that. but, of course, if you want to be credible and work internationally, you need to have a credible law, you need to respond when commissions come in and say you re off track and put new laws on the table, or else you won t be credible internationally and you won t be able to forge the types of partnerships that we re working on right now with a range of different countries. all right, so, you ve talked about how every country s got to see it as it does. i want to put you what president macky sall senegal said when he became chair of the african union, and in senegal, there are major gas discoveries, and he said last year, putting an end to the financing of gas will deeply affect and threaten our efforts for social development. why are we remaining committed to the fight against climate change? it is legitimate that our countries demand a fair and equitable energy transition. so, should there be an energy transition for developing
and what are the main problems. private sector globalisation is not happening. so that s why there was a summit last week, we ll see if the matching starts to happen more. access to finance is a key issue, so we re working to make it more possible for small island states and countries to get access faster from the green climate fund. the multilateral development banks were set up decades ago, not fit for purpose. germany and the us is leading a reform, that is a goal up for next year. debt reduction, right? that when a climate disaster hits that countries don t have to pay. germany has set up, with the vulnerable 20, the global shield, which is about supporting countries hit by climate disasters, so that they can get responses. it s not enough. it s not enough but that s we re working towards, to make happen. it s tiny. i mean, it s not just me saying this. and what about technology transfer, that s another thing that the global north could do for the global south? you know, i tell you