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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:24:00

She didn t seem so upset in that video. it was around 2:00 a.m. at police headquarters when cara revealed why j.j. was at her place that night, even though he d left her, moved out, three weeks earlier. it was quite a story. remember, cara met a new man after the breakup with j.j. also a sheriff s deputy, his name was scott. scott holderbaum. for a week or so, you were seeing this guy. you were having some it was fun. it was fun. i was giddy. i was like a school kid and i my teacher in the room next to me, i d run over there and say, he just texted me, what do i say? i hadn t really been on a date in 20 years. the day of the shooting, cara texted scott a very explicit text, complete with intimate selfie, inviting him to come over for a tryst. so embarrassing. i had never sent suggestive text messages, let alone body parts, it was mortifying. it would be sad if it wasn t so tragic. but it is tragic. but he couldn t come, is that what happened? oh, scott was at work.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:22:00

she must have seemed pretty upset. she just shot her ex-husband? not unduly. really? no. mind you, according to cara, as she sat here in the car, she didn t know how badly hurt j.j. was. so, you thought he was alive still? absolutely. in fact, j.j. died rather quickly. a fate that had a certain irony. it was he who gave cara the gun, taught her how to shoot to kill in case the occasion ever arose. was this an appropriate occasion? detective syers, charged with finding out, understood he had a problem. learned that from the deputy who put cara in his car. we were told that she had used her telephone. that is, her cell phone, the one they failed to take away. big mistake. who did she call? what did she say? syers knew the patrol car was equipped with a camera and microphone to record any conversations. so i naturally asked, was this recorded? and i was told, no, it wasn t. there was video, just no audio. for the first hour and a half,

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:45:00

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:41:00

I just got it out of sequence. he came in the door. he raped me. he was enraged. he came in the door, and he yelled at me. he left. he came back. it was just the same thing, just a little muddled. it was a little more than muddled. things happened at different times in different tellings basically, right? i just got things out of sequence. i was in shock. i was scared out of my mind. i had never seen him like that. at the trial, attorney futerman had an expert offer this opinion. trauma can affect how you remember things. sometimes a moment of self preservation can affect how you say things. but cara was consistent about one thing, her claim that j.j.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:32:00

She s not telling the truth. there s nothing in there that tells me, you know, that there s a reasonable explanation for her action. yes, there was a reasonable explanation, said the defense. and the jury was about to hear it. coming up, cara s lawyer argues the cops mishandled the case because j.j. was one of their own. he lied. when the witness gets on that stand, the injury is not going to forgive you. then cara takes a gamble that could decide her fate. i texted and he said i ll do it. when dateline continues. continues continues

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