controlling. abortion rights advocates have been accused of exaggerating the harm of overturning roe v. wade. they ve even been accused of concocting victims whose stories will pull on the heart strings of america, including being accused of concocting the story of a 10-year-old girl who was raped and forced to take an abortion outside of her own state because, man, a story like that would really prove the problem of having no exceptions with abortion bans or the bans themselves. the truth is this case gained national attention since president biden referred to the little girl while discussing abortion rights actions, telling the story of how she had to cross state lines from ohio to indiana to have her abortion after becoming impregnated by her rapist at just ten years old. because rape victims are ineligible for abortions in ohio after cardiac activity, which is around six weeks. this little girl and i will stress, this little girl had to travel because she was six week
about d.c. police officer who is corroborating what she said was actually right and actually happened. does that fall in the same line with the ideas of speak no evil, sort of the fight club mentality? look, at the end of the day, to the privilege point, we actually want these privileges to exist. i want my president to be able to speak to his senior aides in sort of comfort and secrecy and be able to do the business of government. you want secret service agents to keep their mouth shut about what they see with the president unless there s wrong doing and criminality. wrong doing is in the eye of the beholder, but crimes are crimes. or serious ethical lapses that weigh on this person s fitness to be president of the united states, which may not be criminal but perhaps the public should know about. i would say politically, though, if the capitol police story about corroborating the altercation is true and if the hard version, the worst version of this deleted text thing is true,
wanted to keep the pregnancy going despite risks to her and the fetus. and one of the main risks is an infection. and it can develop very quickly and can become severe very quickly. and that s exactly what happened. and the medical treatment for this, the standard care for this, is an abortion. and the patient chose an abortion to save her life. but, you know, three weeks ago, i would have you know, this is medical care. we do this not infrequently because this happens more commonly than people might imagine. but the new thing is how am i going to protect my patient legally? how am i going to protect myself? because i m not a doctor i m not a lawyer. i have not been able to understand that 20-page bill like my lawyers have. so, my first call has to be to my lawyer to make sure that i m protecting the patient as best as i can. nancy, when you hear that, i mean, what goes through your mind about the idea that this is one of the thoughts in terms of
these bans on abortion that limit access hurt everybody but especially those who need it the most. nancy, when you hear that, the idea of it not being an anomaly, the idea of it happening i mean, one of the reasons we have laws like this on the book that are so specific to sexual assaults of minors is because we know, as society, whether we want to admit it or not that it can happen. and yet we have a conversation, nancy, surrounding the agency and autonomy over a body. we often think about a woman s body, but it s more expansive. it s about a little girl s body. it s about those who may find themselves with little recourse and in states like this, possibly not. what is your reaction to this real possibility? has it been dismissed by too many at this point? you know, here we are. it is just short of three weeks since the supreme court overturned roe versus wade, and you know, this is one story
aspect, moral bullying was the phrase you ve used in the past with me. not against me but the phrase we ve talked about together. has been the idea that if somebody brings up a story like this, that is so heart wrenching, that is so awful that it shuts down the other side s ability to respond because what are you going to say aside from i m wrong. it didn t happen. right. no one is going to want to be maneuvered into the, well, i m in favor of the rape of a 10-year-old girl position. no one wants to seem like it. which is why jim jordan should man up and say, i got out over my skis, i screwed up, i thought the media was pulling one over on me. i was wrong. people are going to be wrong. it s going to be an ugly fight for the next five years, as people forget how to deal with this stuff. that s why i hate the whole story. and not to mention not only acknowledge that you were wrong and apologize and set the record straight. but don t go the other extreme