of approach is the right approach. i don t want to patronise people who follow the chinese narrative but why on earth would we take anything that comes from beijing as a true fact? even to this day we don t know the origin of covid. this is the reality. so i cannot. here s something i do know. you ve already alluded to the camps, the chinese call them education and vocational training centres. those camps were spotted on satellite imagery years ago, they have disappeared, they no longer exists, chinese say that a policy of internment camps is no longer being pursued inside xinjiang. so there is change. are you acknowledging change? no, i don t acknowledge that because your network recently published the xinjiang police file that shows thousands of realfaces, children, elderly women who have been
today than it has been for decades. so anyone who listens to the chinese statement or takes at face value need to examine if that kind of approach is the right approach. i don t want to patronise people who follow the chinese narrative but why on earth would we take anything that comes from beijing as a true fact? even to this day we don t know the origin of covid. this is the reality. so i cannot. here s one thing we do know. you ve already alluded to the camps, the chinese call them education and vocational training centres. those camps were spotted on satellite imagery years ago, they have disappeared, they no longer exist, chinese say that policy of internment camps is no longer being pursued inside xinjiang. so there is change. are you acknowledging change?