is at the centre of the uyghur experience personally and professionally, his family is from xinjiang, he now lives in exile and chairs the us commission on international religious freedoms. can international pressure save the uyghurs? nury turkel welcome to hardtalk. thank you very much for having me back. it is a great pleasure to have you on the show. now, your home is in the united states, your homeland is xinjiang in china. are you able today to get information from xinjiang to get a clear picture of what today s china strategy in that region is? yes, i have been able to get information through publicly available chinese government official statements and also leaked documents have recently been released, including international media organisations such as yours. also, i have been speaking with camp survivors and victims of the ongoing uyghur genocide. and, personally, even my own story, it tells me a lot about what is happening in the region, what is happening to the peo
in bucha, a suburb of kyiv. now on bbc news, it s hardtalk with stephen sackur. welcome to hardtalk, i m stephen sackur. china s treatment of the uyghur muslim minority living in xinjiang has stirred loud condemnation in the west. the us government uses the word genocide to condemn systematic abuse and repression, china calls that the lie of the century. my guest nury turkel is at the centre of the uyghur experience personally and professionally, his family is from xinjiang, he now lives in exile and chairs the us commission on international religious freedoms. can international pressure save the uyghurs? nury turkel welcome to hardtalk. thank you very much for having me back. it is a great pleasure to have you on the show. now, your home is in the united states, your homeland is xinjiang in china. are you able today to get information from xinjiang to get a clear picture of what today s china strategy in that region is? yes, i have been able to get information through publ
in western japan. he s said to be unconscious. local media reports say a sound like a gunshot was heard at the time. a male suspect has been detained. now on bbc news, it s hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk, i m stephen sackur. china s treatment of the uyghur muslim minority living in xinjiang has stirred loud condemnation in the west. the us government uses the word genocide to condemn systematic abuse and repression, china calls that the lie of the century. my guest, nury turkel, is at the centre of the uyghur experience, personally and professionally, his family is from xinjiang, he now lives in exile and chairs the us commission on international religious freedoms. can international pressure save the uyghurs? nury turkel, welcome to hardtalk. thank you very much for having me back. it is a great pleasure to have you on the show. now, your home is in the united states, your homeland is xinjiang in china. are you able today to get information from xinjiang to get a clear pict
of approach is the right approach. i don t want to patronise people who follow the chinese narrative but why on earth would we take anything that comes from beijing as a true fact? even to this day we don t know the origin of covid. this is the reality. so i cannot. here s something i do know. you ve already alluded to the camps, the chinese call them education and vocational training centres. those camps were spotted on satellite imagery years ago, they have disappeared, they no longer exist, chinese say that a policy of internment camps is no longer being pursued inside xinjiang. so there is change. are you acknowledging change? no, i don t acknowledge that because your network recently published the xinjiang police file that shows thousands of realfaces, children, elderly women who have been
of approach is the right approach. i don t want to patronise people who follow the chinese narrative but why on earth would we take anything that comes from beijing as a true fact? even to this day we don t know the origin of covid. this is the reality. so i cannot. here s something i do know. you ve already alluded to the camps, the chinese call them education and vocational training centres. those camps were spotted on satellite imagery years ago, they have disappeared, they no longer exists, chinese say that a policy of internment camps is no longer being pursued inside xinjiang. so there is change. are you acknowledging change? no, i don t acknowledge that because your network recently published the xinjiang police file that shows thousands of realfaces, children, elderly women who have been