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MSNBCW All July 5, 2024

essence fast. i wish i was there, but i just would be there in spirit, all in with chris hayes starts right now. , al tonight on all in. come on. the hypocrisy is stunning. new supreme court rulings that make millions of people poorer, and open the door for discrimination. there are some people in this country now who believe that it was open season again on lgbtq people. tonight, two stunning two examples of the supreme court imperial overreach, and what happens next. today s decision has closed one path, now we re going to pursue another. then, an important new figure in the case against donald trump. starting with our campaign chairman susie wildes, who is really the best. really the best in the business. what we know about trump ain t susie wildes, and wide to big deal that you talking to jacques mid. it seems that susie wildes has spoken with investigators several times, it is earth shattering news. when all in starts now. good evening from new york

FOXNEWSW The July 5, 2024

in for harris today on the faulkner focus. john roberts writing in the majority opinion, this court has never drawn the line the secretary suggests and for good reason. among congress s most important authorities is its control of the purse. justice kagan with dissent writing the majority overrides the combined judgment of the legislative and executive branches with the consequence of eliminating loan forgiveness for 43 million americans. i respectfully dissent from that decision. white house says we ll hear from the president directly on this ruling later today. in the meantime let s bring in shannon bream, fox news chief legal correspondent. a lot of political back and forthing now in washington responding to this decision but at the end of the day as you pointed out last hour, the court was not ruling on whether this was a good policy or fair policy. the court was ruling on whether the president had the constitutional authority to issue this directive in the first place.

MSNBCW Jose July 5, 2024

now. good morning, i am lindsey reiser. we are going to begin with breaking news from the u.s. supreme court. two huge decisions on the final day of its term. moments ago the justices striking down president biden s plan to forgive more than $400 billion in student loan debt. the high court says it needed to be approved by congress and they also ruled that colorado website designer can refuse to create a website for a samecouples saying that the first amendment allows her to refuse to invoice it endorsed messages. colorado seeks to force an individual that. with us now to start off our coverage this hour, nbc news correspondent outside of the court. catherine christian. now an msnbc legal analyst. first, to you here. two huge cases. what did the supreme court have to stay on both of those? well, on that case regarding lgbtq rights. that was the case where now, the opinion, they said that the web design was within her rights and that colorado, which regarded this as an an

MSNBCW Ana July 5, 2024

reporter: there s certainly more people out here today than we ve seen in days past, especially because today we know exactly what we will get decisions on because it s the last day. you mentioned those two big cases, of course at the end of pride month. that case that has to do with whether or not a web designer can refuse to design a wedding website for a gay couple. we could see some reaction to that. the biggest one we re watching for is on student loans, whether or not biden s student loan forgiveness program will stand. the biden administration was using a congressional act started after 9/11 in 2003. it was continued through the pandemic, even invoke bid betsy devoss under the trump administration. can student loans be forgiven in their entirety forever? this would affect about 43,000 people, sorry, we re starting to get some decisions just in now. so i m going to go listen for what those are, and i said 43,000, that s 43 million people, and i ll be back to you when

FOXNEWSW Americas July 5, 2024

await today s opinion. shannon bream is standing by outside the court. hi, shannon. this is it, dana and bill. we re down to the wire. we know the student loan cases are coming today and know the case on the colorado web designer the free speech issue is coming today as well. the question continues to be does it punted get to an issue of standing. they talked about whether these parties, the group of states, red states that brought the case and borrowers who brought a separate case that they joined together at the court, do they either one of them have the right legal posture to be the ones to have the case heard? it was a lot of doubt. not just the left leaning justices. do they get to the merits of the case? i feel like because they ve held it to the last day my gut says they should have gotten to the merits. they ve taken a long time. we would expect they do. we ll know within moments. the first case it looks like that we have is the colorado web designer. the web design

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