stand a nudge back. what kind of effect does he have on you? a very positive effect. it s been hard to be a catholic. the church has been involved in horrible things. and the fact that pope francis is embracing this humility. and also, the notion of mercy. it s, you know, one of the reasons i was raised catholic i think i walked away was it wasn t constructed on inclusion. it was more constructed on a set of rules. that s the kind of thing as a cultural or cafeteria catholic, you want to hear, you want a reason to come back to church. and he said time and time again, the church is like a field hospital. and he s said over and over again, meet people where they are. i met some of these prisoners. he goes to the people on the periphery on the margins. i m wondering, was there a moment for you in the papacy
federal courts it might benefit employees who were fired for being gay. in my hometown of philadelphia one such case right now is the source of great controversy. it caught my eye as a cafeteria catholic. margie winters was the director at waldon university. a title she held since 2007 about as long as she s been with her wife andrea. here s the deal winters never tried covering up who she is or who she s married too. that has many asking well why now, and why the school hired her in the first place. joining me now is margie and her wife. people may be surprised to know that up until this development, you don t have a legal leg to stand on in challenging your termination. that s right i don t. you acknowledge that. you re not here to fight legally for your job you want your
community. more importantly, he s a very pasteural pope. he s shown he wants to get to know the people that he sheppards, and that s really all we re asking is to get to know us let us tell you our story. i was you already heard me describe myself as a cafeteria catholic i m taking the jell-o i m rejecting the turkey you know what that s about. this hasn t challenged your catholic faith at all? on the contrary, it s made it even deeper. i love this church i think this has realized how much i want to fight for it. because there are some that want to exclude me from the faith. and i don t want to be excluded. by church teet paching this is not something the clutch condones. it s not something the hierarchy of the church condones. when christ walked the earth, he railed against the hierarchy for
federal courts but might benefit employees fired for being gay. in my hometown of philadelphia one such case right now is the source of great controversy. it certainly caught my eye as a cafeteria catholic. margie winters was the director at walter mercy economy. a title held since 2007 about as long as she was married to her wife andrea. but her tenure with the school was ended after parents complained to the school and the philadelphia archdiocese. winters never tried covering up who she is or who she is married to. and that has many asking well, why now? and why the school hired her in the first place? joining me now is margie winters and her wife andrea. first of all, people may be surprised up until this development, you don t have a legal leg to stand on in challenging your termination. that s right, i don t. and you acknowledge that? yes. so you are not here to fight legally for your job but just
and more importantly, he s a pastoral pope. he showed he really wants to get to know the people that he shepherds. and that s really all we re asking to get to know us. let us tell you our story. i was you already heard me describe myself as a cafeteria catholic. i m taking the jell-o and rejecting the turkey you know what that is about. i m surprised by the depth of your faith in light of this. that this hadn t challenged your catholic faith at all. on the contrary. it s made it even deeper. how? i love this church. and i think this has made me realize how much i want to fight for it. because there are some that want to exclude me from the faith. and i don t want to be excluded. but by church teaching and the catechism, this is not something that the church condones. it is not something that the hierarchy of the current church condones but i think when christ walked the earth, he railed against the hierarchy for trying to exclude people by using the laws of the faith at