steve, it s julie. this visit by the pope, what does it do for u.s. and cuba relations? reporter: i think there s going to be a lot of close attention paid to exactly what this pope says. both here and then following up on the u.s. how far is he going to go? he s known as a pastoral pope, someone who ministers to the people. he has played an oversized role in politics. he now has had real foreign policy success on his resume. how far is he going to try to push that? a man who presents himself as the pope of the poor, pastoral pope. yet he is making things happen on the world stage. which direction will he go on in the open air mass. close attention will be made. raul castro himself is is going to be in attendance at all these masses, julie.
and more importantly, he s a pastoral pope. he showed he really wants to get to know the people that he shepherds. and that s really all we re asking to get to know us. let us tell you our story. i was you already heard me describe myself as a cafeteria catholic. i m taking the jell-o and rejecting the turkey you know what that is about. i m surprised by the depth of your faith in light of this. that this hadn t challenged your catholic faith at all. on the contrary. it s made it even deeper. how? i love this church. and i think this has made me realize how much i want to fight for it. because there are some that want to exclude me from the faith. and i don t want to be excluded. but by church teaching and the catechism, this is not something that the church condones. it is not something that the hierarchy of the current church condones but i think when christ walked the earth, he railed against the hierarchy for trying to exclude people by using the laws of the faith at