thanks and congratulations, i suspect, and puts a line under, i think, that slip that biden made about a week ago when he indicated that there may be some lesser response if there was a minor incursion by russia into ukrainian territory. that s now been put aside entirely and there is unanimity in the western international community that if there is any kind of invasion, any kind of move by moscow against ukraine, that there will be, in words of the united states, massive sanctions imposed. the next question will be the extent to which hybrid warfare would come into play. cyber attacks, for example, that s something i m told the two presidents will discuss. absolutely. thank you for that. a moment of uncertainty. let s go now to former secretary of defense and former c harks director. in your time in government, you