who follows the law? if no one enforces the law. right. you know, if you don t follow the law, of course elias is right and saying legal votes should be counted. if the votes fall outside the law, if they aren t filled out properly, not counted in time, etc., etc. they fall outside the law. they become votes that need to be disqualified. and there are if the democrats in broward county and palm beach are too incompetent to do their job they shouldn t be doing those jobs. bill: a lot coming up on this today. rick scott senior advisor brad todd is here with reaction and the legal strategy. next hour talk to a former florida secretary of state kathryn harris. she played a pivotal role in the recount of 2000. a butterfly ballot, sandra. hanging chad.
elected officer. the secretary of state cannot remove them. only the governor can. so they will be looking at this moving forward to make sure those same mistakes aren t repeated in this election. sandra: are you getting any sense as to how this is going to turn out? i wish i could say i were but again, i think what s so critical is that the laws are followed. there may be bad actors but what is critical is that they are not allowed to put forward their agenda. a philosopher scholar said in the end who we are when no one sees determines what we can do when everybody is looking. and so i m hopeful, prayerful that the kind of integrity that we want to see in our elected officials will follow through and not unjustified means. bill: you remember the butterfly ballot of 18 years ago. that s been done away with.
arguably rightfully so. this year you have this ballot in broward county where many are making the case the senators race was below the series of instructions as opposed to the governor s at the top of the page. do you think there should have been a better clarification of that ballot? is that an argument that is right for the courts to decide or is that water under the electoral bridge at this point? the supervisor of elections is in charge of her ballot just as they were in palm beach. the butterfly ballot was confusing but that was not grounds to go back and change the course of that election. what is going to happen even in palm beach. this point is relevant now. the court said you shall certify the election and then they were arbitrary, either on friday or sunday. we chose sunday while the nation waited even though we made them wait longer we wanted to give everyone the opportunity to count all the
more votes on the top of the center column, wide spacing there. a lot easier to miss this than that. the u.s. election commission system, they give advice on how to run elections. they have a report that specifically advised never to do what broward did. they said when you have a column of instructions, their study found when you put a race underneath a column of instructions, they concluded voters were likely to miss that race and not vote on it. that s why that ballot design issue looms so large. if the nelson campaign number is right, that campaign could come close to 12,000. what happens if what that commission found isn t true, that people just missed that vote on the bottom there? what recourse do they have? i imagine there might be some kind of lawsuit. here is a rough parallel. back in 2000, remember the butterfly ballot, palm beach county. you had thousands of voters who said they accidentally voted for
any other county in the state, if those 25,000 had voted at that rate, you re talking 8, 10,000 extra votes for nelson that he would net in a race where right now again statewide less than 15,000. it reminds me of those old days when people down in palm beach county who had no reason to like pat buchanan s politics voted for pat by accident because of the crazy ballot. that butterfly ballot. even buchanan said they were not votes for me. they were votes for gore. it s nice to hear honesty, even in the crudest form. thank you so much. amazing work this week. i m joined now by an election law specialist who s associated with the bill nelson campaign in florida. and of course susan delpercio. thank you all. ron, you start. briefly, we could probably spend a year trying to figure out by the way my question, a real simple question, why can t the whole country have one measure of voting, one type of machine.