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Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20210830 03:45:00

everything was doom and gloom and thatcher. and the paintings were becoming more and more like an object in space. an image of an object in space and so, being rather slow coming from suffolk, i realised i should be making the things rather than making them. and quite often, i could be working on a painting for quite a while and realised it was a sculpture and realised it was a sculpture and vice versa. things are very funny. and vice-versa. things are very funn . , ., and vice-versa. things are very funn . y., and vice-versa. things are very funn . ., ., and vice-versa. things are very funn . ., ., , funny. and you took on a very ublic funny. and you took on a very public commission, funny. and you took on a very public commission, a - funny. and you took on a very i public commission, a monument stroke statute commission and in central london you did an intriguing public sculpture celebrating oscar wilde, you took on a commission to celebrate theirjoint. took on a commission

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20210830 03:39:00

hadley. painting. i went to the edge of hadle . . ., painting. i went to the edge of hadle . . . ., , hadley. cedric and lead became real mentors. hadley. cedric and lead became real mentors. absolutely. - hadley. cedric and lead became real mentors. absolutely. he i real mentors. absolutely. he said the most real mentors. absolutely. he said the most important - real mentors. absolutely. he| said the most important thing anyone has ever said to me, you must make your bike your best friend. in other words, you can go to it with whatever you re feeling, tired, bored, randy, no matter what you re feeling go to and have a conversation with her. ., , go to and have a conversation with her- with her. that is the mantra that has stuck with her. that is the mantra that has stuck with - with her. that is the mantra that has stuck with you - with her. that is the mantra that has stuck with you your entire career. i don t want to sound like a cod psychologist but let me propose to you i th

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20210830 03:34:00

something could happen, something could happen, something i did not know about. that sounds almost incomprehensible but when you start to draw with your left hand, you are not quite sure where it is going? exactly so. let s talk about your bike and i want to begin with your most recent work because you have could denude painting right through lockdown and you even had a show in lockdown and you are still at it every day. has what has happened to the world in the last year and a half affected the subject matter? well, at the beginning of lockdown, i made a self portrait, angry, because a lot of plans were up in the air. i was going to show in new york and one thing and another and a lot of people felt angry and suddenly things stopping but

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20210830 03:44:00

coffin. when somebody is lying in the coffin, my mother, my father, it is the last time you re going to see them before they go down there so it is obvious to make a drawing. but it is not necessarily a time where you feel like working? it is a sort of work as well as an act of love? act of love? well, it is the last time act of love? well, it is the last time you act of love? well, it is the last time you see - act of love? well, it is the last time you see the i act of love? well, it is the i last time you see the person and this whole thing about death, if you love someone, for anyone, they go on and being alive in side of you, don t they. alive in side of you, don t the . ., , they. tell me about the shift of bein: they. tell me about the shift of being a they. tell me about the shift of being a pure they. tell me about the shift of being a pure painter i they. tell me about the shift of being a pure painter to i they. tell me about the shift| of being a pure painter to an

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20210830 03:38:00

were, yourfamily family but it turns out you were, your family actually proved to be a very talented painter but when you were a girl at first introduced to painting, no idea your dad was quite gifted? quite gifted? no, it all started quite gifted? no, it all started at quite gifted? no, it all started at school- quite gifted? no, it all started at school when quite gifted? no, it all. started at school when i quite gifted? no, it all- started at school when i was 14 started at school when i was ia and there was an art exam and i did nothing but flick paint people generally drew attention to myself because i was deeply in love with the biology mistress who was modulating the exam and i saw the clock and it was 20 past three and i knew that at 330 i had to hand in a painting and so i did what and when results came in, i was a type of art and i thought, this is with looking into. i don t have to try, i am good at it. that it started then and then i went onto my first oil painting. i

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