administration is doing and what biden said today, is he s trying to make sure that any possible opportunity for russia to use its sovereign wealth is going to be cut off. now obviously we need to have the cooperation of countries around the world. but i do think we re going to see more and more of this international pressure led by the united states as a result of these horrific killings and mass murder that is taking place in ukraine. director brennan, we saw these pictures over the weekend because of something courtney has been reporting on and that is the repositioning of russian forces. they had occupied bucha and they pulled away from kyiv to move and sort of harden their offensive in the eastern part of the country. but the view from ukraine is that all across their country there are many, many, many, many buchas. what in your decades of experience and intelligence do you assess this happening right now to civilians inside of
sort, things to treat his wounds so that it wouldn t be infected. and when she tried to find him again, she couldn t, people were just the soldiers were telling her, oh, he s not here, or oh, come back later, and that night, you know, ukrainian forces were approaching and the russians ended up just leaving in the middle of the night. there was still kind of no sign of where sergi was, and the next morning, you know, some neighbors found his body buried. he had been shot multiple times. the body was so badly mangled that his wife wasn t even allowed to see him. so just, you know, there is a belief that, you know, he was obviously tortured before he was killed. he had broken limbs. and, you know, kind of shows that this isn t just happening in bucha, this is happening in other areas, and we just don t know about it yet. the atrocities, we don t know how many buchas there are at
moved much more quickly and much more extensively to respond to these massacres. as for the russians, they re going to continue to do what they ve done in bucha and elsewhere. this is the way they are. these are not soldiers. these are animals. and i do think that we need to recognize that there will be many more buchas in the days and weeks ahead. you say you re disappointed in the actions taken by nato and the united states in the wake of these images and the atrocities which have been committed. but what can they do? well, for starters, i think germany could be much more willing to cut off oil and natural gas to the russians from the russians now rather than in five years or ten years time. so we need to inflict a lot more economic pain on russia immediately rather than down the track. secondly, i would imagine that there needs to be a much more assertive move and a much more visible move by nato to provide heavy armor, artillery, and indeed let s move again on
them, but there they are. yeah, there they are. and what i was saying was to hear that government official speaking in russian, and saying these bodies where they were standing were located as a children s camp before that just gives you a since of the inhumanity here and i know you spoke more on that with the deputy prime minister of ukraine this morning. yes, that s right. one of the things i asked her about was beyond bucha, are there other buchas? in particular, zelenskyy mentioned the town of borodyanka, a little further away from kyiv, and here s what she said. translator: indeed he mentioned borodyanka because borodyanka was also fully occupied for a while, and we had no access. we could not see what was happening there. therefore we are inviting journalists, criminal experts, and anybody with relevant experience to come and witness
knows took place and he ll be demanding a step-up in action by the world, that matches the brutality and the horrors that are being uncovered there. you can see the pain on his face yesterday when he was there. the mayor of bucha, telling us yesterday that it was as if russian soldiers had been given the green light to go on safari in bucha and there s obviously going to be a long path to recovery. phil, thank you so much for that report. jim and bianna? brianna, i think the concern is that this isn t an isolated situation. there s countless more buchas throughout ukraine and so much attention is now on the port city of mariupol, right, russian forces attacking a civilian ship there as russian troops are again flocking evacuation convoy to the city. what s the latest assessment of how difficult things are there right now and why ahead in terms of what we ll bear witness to? reporter: i think that s really the thing, bianna. i think you hit the nail on the head there because we ca