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are mutually exclusive. i think on the one hand you re absolutely right, they re speaking to their audiences, they re joining up a kind of resistance and a kind of anger at look at this guy talking this kind of stuff, and blackness is much more complicated and look, by the way, he s lighter than us or darker than us and therefore he s not really black. come on. so yeah, they re playing to the ignorance of their audience. but they re also, you know, exposing a kind of lethal ignorance about the very nature of race itself. and in that sense, yeah, they know better. look, i met joe rogan and spoke to him after a concert by dave chappelle. you re opening for dave chappelle, one of the blackest men in america. not because of his brown skin tone. not because of the shade of his skin. but by virtue of the ideals he promotes, the ideals with which he wrestles, and the ways in which he gets it right or some would say wrong and his life experiences. and life experiences. and the way in whi
his campaign promise to nominate a black woman? the short list circulating in washington signals history s about to be made. and you ve got to hear this. podcaster joe rogan thinks he has the definition of what makes a black person. unless you re talking to someone who is like 100% african from the darkest place where they re not wearing any clothes all day and they ve developed all that melanin to protect themselves from the sun, even the term black is weird. okay. professor michael eric dyson s name coming up as part of this uninformed rant. he joins me just ahead on that. and the country might be sick of covid but the cdc is predicting more than 62,000 deaths over the next month. warnings from an expert straight ahead this hour. but i want to start now with cnn s supreme court analyst steve vladeck and global affairs analyst susan glass here to talk about what is going on with breyer s official retirement has not happened but that s the word that it s going to happen soon.
they believe she s a political liability to biden and they want him to choose someone else. so i agree with bakari, she s not going on, but make no mistake, this whole theory was floated today by people who think biden would be better off if he had a different running mate. all right. thank you all. i appreciate it. he s got the most popular podcast in the world. but when the conversation turned to race the other day, well, what was said on joe rogan s podcast about prominent black professor michael eric dyson was jaw-dropping. neither of us are white. well, i m italian mostly. and he was brown, not black. well, isn t that weird? yeah. it s really weird. the black and white thing is so strange because the shades are so tan and brown. there s such a spectrum of shades of people. thanks to the cartridge-free epson ecotank printer. a ridiculous amount of ink! you re mocking me. not again! the epson ecotank. just fill & chill. wondering what actually goes into your mult
a conversation about race on joe rogan s podcast taking an uninformed turn. a guest on the show psychologist and commentator jordan peterson questioned the racial identity of prominent black professor michael eric dyson. you may have seen dyson on this program before. so take a listen to what happened on that podcast. depending on who you ask, either you re a voice of reason and rationality and, you know, personal responsibility or you re a voice of intolerance and bigotry and anger and hateful. sexual oppression. prejudice. what did michael eric dyson call you? a mean white man? yeah. a mean angry white man, yeah. hilarious. you re not mean at all. that s what s dumb about that statement. you re not mean at all. i am white. actually, that s a lie too. i m kind of tan. and he was actually not black. he was sort of