are mutually exclusive. i think on the one hand you're absolutely right, they're speaking to their audiences, they're joining up a kind of resistance and a kind of anger at look at this guy talking this kind of stuff, and blackness is much more complicated and look, by the way, he's lighter than us or darker than us and therefore he's not really black. come on. so yeah, they're playing to the ignorance of their audience. but they're also, you know, exposing a kind of lethal ignorance about the very nature of race itself. and in that sense, yeah, they know better. look, i met joe rogan and spoke to him after a concert by dave chappelle. you're opening for dave chappelle, one of the blackest men in america. not because of his brown skin tone. not because of the shade of his skin. but by virtue of the ideals he promotes, the ideals with which he wrestles, and the ways in which he gets it right or some would say wrong -- >> and his life experiences. >> and life experiences. and the way in which he channels those.
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