concerns to anyone in your office about what you heard on the call? my supervisor was in listening on the call as well, so because he had heard the same information, i did not feel the need to have a further conversation with him about it. and you never had any concerns with anyone else in the vice president s office? i did not discuss the call further with anyone in the vice president s office. okay. so you didn t flag it for the chief of star or the vice president s counsel or anyone of that sort? again, my immediate supervisor, lieutenant general kellogg was in the room with me, so. and after the call, did you and general kellogg ever discuss the contents of the call? we did not, no. okay. in the run up to the meeting in warsaw, the vice president was meeting with president zelensky september 1st, in warsaw, you were involved with the preparation of the vice president s briefing materials? i was. and did you flag for the vice president this, you know, parts of th
heard the ambassadors of the european union, gordon sondland, say directly this ask had been coordinated with mick mulvaney. this came before that july phone call happened over the summer. also he heard gordon sondland tell the ukranians with, quote, no ambi gui ty, that there needed to be these investigations before that meeting was carried out. also vindman makes very clear that while efls involved with the preparation of that phone call in july. he actually drafted some briefing materials for the president in that july phone call. he did not include what the president ultimately asked the ukranian president to do, which was to launch the investigations into the bidens, also to the company burisma, which is the company that former vice president biden s son had been on the board of. he was so concerned about what the president asked, he went to the lawyers because he was so concerned about this, fearing it
jennifer williams an adviser to pence for europe and russia who was on trump s kroeshl call with the ukrainian president, three people familiar with her remarks told the new york times that williams told investigators the july call stood out as unusual to her, because she was not accustomed to a president discussing domestic political issues with a foreign leader. but she did not take any steps to report her concerns and made only a passing reference to the call in briefing materials for the vice president. williams said she did not know whether pence read the materials, including a summary of the call, and testified that pence later spoke with trump on the day of his conversation with zelensky, but she did not know what exactly was discussed. williams also reportedly offered insight into a meeting between pence and zelensky in warsaw, on september 1st, according to the times, williams testified that in the meeting, zelensky asked pence about the u.s. delay in releasing military aide
he received those briefing materials before he, himself, went to meet with the president of ukraine, whereupon vice president pence told the ukrainians their aid would be held up until that investigation happened. that is not good for the vice president, right? that is exactly what the president is being impeached for. it really looks like he did it too, and worse, if he was the one who made it explicit. they wouldn t get their military aid if they didn t do it. well, the three chairs of the committee who are handling the bulk of the impeachment proceedings are confirming now that they are in this matter and this is the core issue of the impeachment. approaching a foreign government for dirt on a political rival for help on the next election in this country. and vice president pence appears to be made explicit the quid pro quo. they won t get their military aid unless they do it. so they announced they are investigating the president as part of the impeachment proceedings.
inquiry and the proceedings shifted to include not just the president himself but also vice president pence. and i think we knew this was probably inevitable once the washington post reported a couple days ago that sources close to the vice president said that vice president pence had been briefed on the fact that president trump was pressing ukraine to investigate his political rival joe biden. he received those briefing materials before he, himself, went to meet with the president of ukraine where, upon, vice president pence told the ukrainians their aid would be held up until that investigation happened. that is not good for the vice president, right? that is exactly what the president is being impeached for. it really looks like he did it too, and worse, if he was the one that made it explicit. well the three chairs of the committee who s are handling the bulk of the impeachment