system. there is a better way. we can protect the border, stop illegal immigration. find a way with compassion to address this issue of immigration. reverend samuel rodriguez, natalia, thank you very much. really appreciate it. chris hayes, final thoughts here before we close out this hour. i ve got to tell you, our guests were just talking about congress needing to do something. color me skeptical. house has the vote tomorrow. this is all issues of all issues that has bedevilled the congress. because of the brenner bill which would have criminalized all people who were in civil violation of the immigration laws on the may day protest, i believe it was 2006. you had millions take to the streets across the country. and here we are 12 years later, no comprehensive legislation passed. this idea that, you know, if you
speech today is all the difference to them. leland: certainly seems as though when we listen to what the saudi foreign minister yesterday that the focus on iran is a very, very welcome change. keeping on this forum and the folks talking behind you, so much of the funding of these extremist groups come from the very countries participating in this for him and are now promising to stamp it out. you feel as though brenner had to stay, their foreign ministers all gathered there that there has been a seachange or realization that good action in terms of cutting off the funding to terror groups these to follow these good words? yeah, you re exactly right and they have signed on to al jubeir and shake until a, both leading the way and the summit and essentially with the heads of states from their countries, making that commitment.
pregnant. a lie is a lie, and the only way congress can do its over sight properly is with truthful testimony and that is why the law is on the books that says if you lie to congress you ve committed a crime. as the author of the patriot act which lays out the framework for post 9/11 intelligence and surveillance, brenner s call to prosecute clapper has added weight. the liberties group calls this patently false. does the nsa collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of americans? no, sir. it does not? not wittingly. there are cases where they could inadvertently perhaps collect but not willingly. less than three months after his testimony, these documents, including a court order leaked by ed ward snowden showed the
so conyers and brenner being the problem is, i m not taking comfort in it. it doesn t feel like, oh, great, this is the big coalition. i m thinking, the rand paul was for it, maybe i ought to be against it. stick with us. my favorite story of the week was about flipping the script on the former nsa chief. you just never know who s listening.
you. there s been this raging fight, but people who are really focused on and say that the most exciting work going on in health care these days has a lot less to do with the affordable care act and more to do with these efforts under way in states, democratic and republican states across the country. and that s what s been most exciting. we spent about an hour and a half today in the governor s only edge session largely focused on this. we had dr. brenner from camden, new jersey talking about. while we re all getting ready for the implementation of the act, the real work is much bigger than that. i understand that officials in your state worked with the government to the develop a kind of hybridized health insurance exchange to better fit your state s needs. but sir, haent ca be true because i ve heard republicans say the federal government is essentially goose-stepping over state demands. so please tell the truth. isn t the health care reform ruining the state of delaware? well,