select committee. many of us went into the hearings thinking that we knew what happened. a u.s. president wanted to overturn the election, spurred a mob to attack the capitol. forcing the lawmakers there to flee for their lives. but these hearings are showing us so much more than that. for more of what happened that day, and how close we came to losing our democracy. so, how goes? here s how congressman pete aguilar described it. approximately 40 feet, that s all there was. 40 feet between vice president and the mob. 40 feet! 40 feet! of a mob, that according to an informant, in the would have killed vice president mike pence, if they had not gotten hold of him. i m telling you what, i m hearing the pits. i m hearing the pits just caved. is that true? i m hearing on the force that pence caved. if pence caved? we re gonna drag people through the streets. hang mike pence! hang mike pence! bring out pence! the threat to the vice president s life was so intense in the m
right wing reacting to his tweets before they converged on the capitol. reports that pence caved. if pence caved, we are going to trial drag this guy through the streets. you politicians are going to get a drug through the streets we deserve to be with the rest of them. vice president is not going to interject anything. [noise]. you heard it here first. mike pence has betrayed the united states of america! okay, that is horrifying. unfortunately, it is the tip of the iceberg. turns out, a trump s lawyer and insurrection mastermind, johnny, did not think that the supreme court would overweight overturning the election. a swing claimed to have insight on fighting among the justices. i wonder how he got that? that is strange. maybe it is not so strange. he did clerk for justice aaron thomas. the washington report shows that he has been exchanging corresponds with jesse thomas. he denied that any of this can come before the court. now the january six committee has some qu
the plan was illegal, or said in in front and trump did not care it was illegal. i think that was one of the biggest take-aways that eastman himself knew it was illegal and put it in an email, i want you to do a minor constitutional violation. chuck, back to you, we will build our way back to donald trump if we, can and specifically about his lawyer, that lawyer, john eastman, we even saw the email that he wrote to golden globe, saying, you know, having to rudy giuliani, saying you know, having thought about it, i think i do need a pardon here that understands his mind set and understanding he had done something criminal, why else would you need a pardon, what are the legal implications to face him? good questions, peter. first on the pardon, i m not a poker player but i m told people who play poker look for tells if they have a good land or a bad hand and a tell, consciousness of guilt, as you articulated would be asking for a pardon, would be asking for a pardo
the conversation was pretty heated. i remember hearing the word wimp, he called him a wimp. i don t remember if he said you are a wimp. it was a different tone that i had heard him take with the vice president before. these pictures of pence never seen before, the vice president being hidden by the secret service in an underground garage under the capitol, reading the president s tweet that said that pence lacked courage to overturn the election. that tweet helped inflame the mob, a mob that had come within 40 feet of the vice president when he was making his escape. markets are mixed today after thursday s disastrous day on wall street and president biden gets defensive about economists predicting a recession. two american veterans fighting in ukraine have gone missing, along with a possible third who volunteered to fight the russians. we will have the latest from kyiv. follow the money, nbc justice correspondent pete williams retracing the steps of the watergate bre
should have refused to count the electoral votes. and he should thereby have thrown out the results of the presidential election on january 6th at the u.s. capitol. that, i mean, bottom line that s why trump called for a rally in washington d.c. on january 6th. a rally he said would be wild. that s why he then told the people who showed up, when he called them to d.c., that today, that they should march down to the capitol. what was happening at the capitol at that moment? trump hoped, trump was trying to engineer, that mike pence would reject the votes of the electoral college and thereby throw the election results out, through the united states government in the chaos, thus allowing for the overthrow of the u.s. government and for trump to stay in power, even though he had been voted out. the vice chair of the january 6th investigation, liz cheney, put out a statement last night, which we covered here on last night show, in which he said, president trump was told that any