call on it from a particular perspective. john, look, we started with a pumpkin patch story, which in certain ways is ridiculous. is it ridiculous when mr. carrothers said to us basically it feels like a threat. because this question of feeling threatened is everything when it comes to police aggression. well, i think what you are going to have here is is a political issue that boils down to the police chief and some of the elected officials coming to bat for the form and for policing in general. what has happened is that this black lives movement there is a white s.w.a.t. of law enforcement that believes it has come out of or is an outgrowth of that hands up don t shoot movement which was debunked by a lot of investigations that found that either witnesses lied or factual statements were made and then recanted. then as that movement grew and the outgrowth was black lived matter well now that gets branded with hands up don t
there is a sign in the window which reads black live as matter. mr. carrothers took his post down after dozens responded that was not polite. we called and he responded to us, the reason why i responded to sit not because of what black live matter originated from. the original goals were pro police. unfortunately, the movement of black live s matter has been hijacked by people who have an antipolice agenda. they call for violence against police officers and their family. and the chants and demonstrations are very antipolice. their original ideas are whole heartedly accepted. mr. carrothers assures us that he too believes black lives matter. but he also believes that black lives matter as a movement has been hijacked by antipolice activists prepared to enact violence against the law enforcement community. the sign as he sees it is neither simply a statement of
centerville s dock farms and urged others do the same in a lengthy message posted on the union s facebook page on tuesday. if you are wondering what could possibly have led to a feud between the police and the pumpkin patch, well, the answer might surprise you. black lives matter. take a look at this screen grab from carrothers facebook i think pa. he posted, quote, i holy hope you will join me and my police family and make a choice to go somewhere else to enjoy your family front this fall where you are not be confronted by baseless criticism and judgment. in that window there, that s a sign that soes black lives matter. that is near the farm. it is a private resident that belongs to one of the farm s five owners. that s it. that was enough for the head of the police union to call for a boycott of the pumpkin farm.
fact that black lives do matter nor is it a gesture of support for democratic accountability and transparency in policing. for mr. carrothers, the sign is a act of aggression, a threat. and what police officers find threatening matters a lot. because the perception of threat is a critical legal ingredient for determining if an officer s use of force is justified. or, as vox explained back in april, there are plenty of guidelines for use of force by police. but it too often boils down to what the officer believed when the force was used regardless of how much of a threat actually existed. so what started out as a seemingly inconsequential story about a pumpkin patch is sequential, indeed. now we know there are ifrs officers who believe black live s matter is inherently threatening. and the consequences of that belief may prove to be very real. which is also why the response
adorable one, parents taking their little ones out to big fields of pumpkins and letting the kids pick out just the right one. it s also a pretty cost-friendly way to spend an afternoon. at elf steed farms in chester, new jersey a pick your own pumpkin cost just 65 cents a pound. even if your kid picks out a five-pound pumpkin you are looking at $3:for an hour s worth of entertainment. in errata pumpkins, you can get a pumpkin for $1. now in virginia at cox farms in centerville you can get a nice soon to be jacko lantern for 69 cents a pound. know this. if you decide to go get your pumpkin at cox farms in centerville some local police might take exception, specifically brad carrothers. the washington post reported this week that the president of the order of police lodge 77 said he would not patronize