last month, secretary of state blinken went to beijing for meetings with chinese leaders including xi jinping himself. the state department said that the two sides had candid, substantive, and constdestructi discussions can is a way of saying there were no diplomatic br break-throughs. now, more of my interview with antony blinken. when i travel around the world, particularly when i talk to asia diplomats. gui guess a message that they re wonder where this is going. whether there is now a kind of ongoing ratchet effect or tit-for-tat, the united states puts certain kinds of restrictions on china and china will respond and is there a responsible stable equilibrium. as one said to mae, are they doe