he is bellingcat s lead russia investigator and the cause of serial embarrassment to the kremlin with his revelations about the poisoning of alexei navalny and other russian military and intelligence operations. he says he follows the facts wherever they lead, but what s his motivation? christo grozev in washington dc, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me on hardtalk. it s a pleasure. now, alexei navalny famously described you once as just a bulgarian nerd with a laptop . since he said that, you ve become the joint winner of an oscar. you are in the international limelight as an investigative journalist. does all of this attention make yourjob harder? well, not necessarily. i was oblivious of any attention before all of these awards, and i m oblivious of it now. i like to work from cafes, so i get a lot more people approaching me and asking me for a selfie. that s about the only disruption. you, until very recently, were based in vienna, but you are talking to me fro
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where the clip you played, you had a lot of folks on the right defending trump. but when this indictment comes, and i really believe it is coming, and we get a chance to see the data in there, the detail, the actual facts that are alleged, i think that s going to be a very similar response, in terms of people reading that, and seeing really overwhelming detail, much of the day with mar-a-lago. so, it s one thing to posture politically now. but when you have alleged facts in front of you, and i really don t think the doj is going to bring a borderline case, when you get that set of overwhelming facts, it s going to be much more difficult and costly, politically, to continue to defend trump. so, just to jump on that point, your question was, have there been lessons learned with regards to the political rhetoric surrounding these types of events, and whether or not ultimately, i m assuming what you are talking about is leading to violence. and have we learned these lessons? i think dona
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prior to the charges surrounding mar-a-lago. a lot of posturing on the political front, when it was apparent that charges were coming. nobody had read the indictment, i think where the same spot where the clip you played, we have a lot of the folks on the right defending trump. but when this indictment comes, and i really believe it is coming, and we get a chance to see the data in there. the detail, the actual facts that are alleged, that s going to be a very similar response in terms of people reading that. and seeing overwhelming detail, much like they did with mar-a-lago. it s one thing to posture politically now. when you have alleged facts in front of, you and i really don t think the doj is gonna bring a borderline case. when you get that set of overwhelming facts, it s gonna become much more difficult and costly, politically, to continue to defend trump. just a jump on that point, your question was, how they re been lessons learned with regards to the political rhetoric surro
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