that the border is mountains and rivers and the geography and p topography is such that a border wall like a great wall of china does not work. i m not sure if it s enough for some of his supporters who voted for him, precisely because of this. but they also voted for him saying that mexico was going to pay or this wall. and they have moved from that, right? now they are okay with the american taxpayer paying for this wall because they know mexico is not going to pay for this wall. and they re willing to go to a government shutdown. listen, sitting here in an air conditioned tv studio, i am not willing to dismiss the pain and suffering of federal workers, some of whom, a lot of whom live paycheck to paycheck, who have to pay rent, who have to pay kids tuitions, who have to pay clothes, christmas gifts, people who have to keep national parks open, families, all sorts of american families who are planning to go visit the capital or visit national parks.
read my lips, no new taxes. is president trump going to be added to that litany of losing propositions? how bad is this for the president? debatable, so let s have a great debate. anna navarro and steve cortez. steve, this was the big promise. this is what he said he was going to do. people like me never believed it would get done, but you did. how do you feel today? ha, i sure did, and i still do, by the way. but listen, i will absolutely concede, you re right dpchlt this wall doesn t get built, that will join that unfortunate pantheon of presidential lies that you showed from president h.w. bush examine from president obama. so, he can t let that happen. number one, it s bad policy. we need the wall built. our southern border has been porous and for the most part open for far too long. so it s good policy. but it s also good politics. i ll tell you as someone who has pledged to work for his
89% of them say that they need a border wall. those are the front line cops at the border. and i believe them and i think we should give them the tools they need to do their job properly. but more importantly, too, you talk about the government shutdown, that it would inflict some pain. i believe that s true. it would on some people near term. but, you know what? there s long-term pain that is permanent pain because we have an open border and i m talking specifically about the people american citizens, many of them hispanic, who have been injured or killed by dangerous illegal aliens because we have tolerated for decades in this country lawlessness on our southern border and combined with sanctuary cities unfortunately one thing at a time. one thing at a time. i thought i was going to put up hold on. i thought i was going to put up a number that showed support for the wall. but it wound up being the same kind of thing. who supports a shutdown over this wall as context, and the
it, i know you have to get to a vote. thank you for providing perspective on both sides. thank you. be well. the president s signature promise seems to be going the way of the dodo. is this going to be the president s read my lips moment? remember the wall? we have a great debate on our hands. next. and just like you, the further into winter we go, the heavier i get. and while your pants struggle to support the heavier you,
entirely a republican problem. and it s republicans who don t want to go along with the wall. he can t get a majority vote i agree with that, anna. we can t blame democrats. it s republicans who don t want to spend the $5 billion i m blaming republicans, absolutely. it is republicans who don t want to go along with an unnecessary wall. they will go along with other measures this is impossible. that congress has run up a $20 trillion debt in this country, and now they re going to worry about a $5 billion expenditure? the party is co-opted by trump and trump doesn t echo your fiscal conservatism. he passed a tax cut that doesn t pay for itself that was anathema to you guys an administration ago. maybe after losing the hill republicans, what they want to do is the easy route here. they want to pass a continuing resolution so they can go home for christmas and say, we ll deal with this in february when, by the way, they don t have the gavel any more in the house.