with this rationally. that is why it is a matter of policy. kimberly: no one is saying not to deal with it rationally, but i m saying as a former prosecutor, who dealt with a large immigrant population and illegal aliens coming in and committing crimes in san francisco, look at kate steinle and what happened therei this is a real problem that needs to be addressed. you shouldn t over tip it in the favor of people who are not following in the law and coming into the country illegally. jesse: look at trump s rhetoric. trump s rhetoric alone, i believe, has helped decrease the illegal border crossings andio that s a good thing. kimberly: his election. greg: in a weird way, he doesn t need the wall. he is the wall. you are saying illegal immigrant traffickers from central who bring central americans in complaining that they don t have any more clients. and i like i love aliens. i like illegal aliens when they do it right, when they sign up. trump is saving illegal aliens