doing over the years, what we should be doing is over the years, what we should be doing is looking at the reality, the reality doing is looking at the reality, the reality is doing is looking at the reality, the reality is we ve had piles of interest reality is we ve had piles of interest rate rises, 4.4% already, probably interest rate rises, 4.4% already, probably 4.9% by the end of today and none probably 4.9% by the end of today and none of those who worked on none of them and none of those who worked on none of them are and none of those who worked on none of them are going to work, they are creating of them are going to work, they are creating inflation. let s. gentlemen, thank you both very much. sam and richard. very interesting. and kevin, bbc cost of living corresponding, i ll be right with you. jack, peterand corresponding, i ll be right with you. jack, peter and andrew. jack, what do you think? i’ire you. jack, peter and andrew. jack, what do you think? y