his burned out and blown up pants and his burned out and blown up wallet. we pull out his driver s license and see if it s there. more often than not, even with terrorists, they have an i.d. on them. and that s where we start. if it s not there, finger prints are gathers, photographs of the remains, of the head, of the face, what s left what you can gath of the clothing. and you are quickly going to pass that on to your intel professionals, your analysts. and they re going to start all that process that we ve discussed a lot tonight. but you re then going to go to that scene, brian, the flat where this guy lives with the crucial question for the commander is, you know, is there another plot afoot? is there other people involved? and is this the bombmaker? is this the bombmaker? he delivered the parcel. it was on his back, and the other question is, did he know it was there? you have to know these things. did he detonate it with a
through, the worry is people could get lazy, and that could not be the case at every gate. is it true that some terrorists have obtained actual security equipment to test how to conceal these kind of explosives? anderson, in 2009, we saw an attempt over detroit to have the underwear bomber, someone who had a bomb device designed by a bombmaker to get around security. that same bombmaker is still around. if you re in the counter terrorism business, you can create defensive measures. i m suspicious of them. you can t train everybody perfectly. you can create defensive measures, but they won t work long-term. there s only two things you can do on the offensive side. number one, let me be brutal. there are very few bombmakers who have the sophistication to do this, in yemen, in iraq, in syria, you got to kill them. in second, long-term, you have to have a solution to eliminate
from libya, row and from sudan, zero. the same, about 3,000 americans were killed by citizens from saudi arabia. united arab emirates and egypt in that same time period. nations that are not on this list of countries that are part of this travel ban. i want to bring in now cnn s international diplomatic editor nic robertson. so, you look at those numbers and what does that tell you about how this ban has been implemented and even how being received overseas. it s been rolled out in such a way that people overseas in particular in the countries affect affected among the allies in europe and elsewhere in the world, that they can t understand because the logic hasn t been laid out for them. however, that said, there will be understanding because they will look at countries like yemen. al-qaeda s best bombmaker, if
most sophisticated bombmaker lives in yemen and builds his bombs in yemen and he made the underpants bomb that was worn by the nigerian attacker who flew into the airport in detroit in december 2009 at christmas, tried to detonate his pelosi. it didn t work, but the bomb came from yemen. but you know, international diplomacy runs on a different track. it runs on working together. counterterrorism officials in one county and intelligence officials working in one country with another. it works on a commonality, joined up, doesn t always work, but that s the strongest it can be. united states allies, they recognize that maybe these countries are the sources of ibs we ve had terror cells in syria that have been directing attacks in europe, in france and belgium, there s a belief that
reporter: the name of the town is roubaix. having said that, this is obviously a city and a country on edge and roubaix in the news before. a week ago, overnight sunday into monday in that same city there was a search for a known bombmaker and did arrest two people in a raid there. but it was not the person that they were looking for. that bombmaker. in that same city, again, but this incident not believed at all related to terror. having said that, this is a city that also was coming home from word from the french prosecutor that they have another suspect that they re searching for and they re asking for the public s help. he s someone who s driving a car, containing the person who already is a subject of a massive manhunt here and of course in belgium. brussels practically shut down as they look for salah abdeslam. this news suspect you see in the