he s been bombing hospitals in syria, killing civilians. going out of his way to inflict massive civilian casualties across curious, why has this country been ill-prepared over the trump years and the past 10, 12, 13 years? i think there was probably too much wishful thinking, that putin would not back his way into what i see as a historical trap for him. how does he exit this without distancing russia from the rest of the world for decades and decades to come? the pain on the russian people is going to be severe. i do want to point out, one of the things we haven t talked about enough in this, is the reason putin was so pro-trump is he was counting on trump to get the united states out of nato. that s what putin wanted. that s why he waited.
cross the borderer, for them it s kind of end of the hell. but literally hell is happening where children are staying in basements with no heat, no electricity, no food, no water and there is no way how to supply these to them because russians keep shelling with missiles. we have the rain of missiles. they are bombing everything, they are bombing schools, they are bombing universities, they are bombing hospitals. they have tried to bomb two days ago the central railway station in kyiv and thank god ukraine air defense system hit the missile but it was thousands of women and women with children trying to escape from this horror and, you know, we are begging americans and nato, please, help ukraine to defend our sky and we are so disappointed of the decision
of ordinary people to go help ukraine but nato will not do that militarily and helping in other ways, particularly the provision of defensive equipment to the ukrainians to continue to defend themselves. we hope to be able to do more in the weeks to come. eric: the prime minister says the russian president and continue destruction syria and signing cities from bombing hospitals and schools from killing civilians and destroying infrastructure. are you concerned and afraid about the same strategy ukraine? i think from my personal observation, getting more, he mentioned earlier my time at the rent, how is the poison in a
but of course, nothing changed, right? the russians are still saying they re not targeting civilians and we know that they are bombing hospitals. why are they even having these meetings? i think that the ukrainians are attempting to keep the diplomatic channels open at a minimum to have a dialogue around protecting civilians, perhaps keeping ukraine humanitarian channels open. they will not concede to maximalist russian demands to cede territory to recognize russian control over crimea and basically to lay down their arms. ukraine s not going to accept that. but they have an obligation to at least talk. you re right, the russians are treating this like diplomatic theater. and we know with the russian playbook is which is to confuse, to muddle, to run counter narratives, to the reality we all see on the ground. and the general is right. i think we are in a perilous moment. i think the assumption over the
don t know the limits are, so they ve left. we know wars terrible, but there are even rules and war. and killing civilians is out of bounds. bombing hospitals is a work rhyme. so people have left. they said, we don t know what to do. i spoke to people from the done bass region, and eastern ukraine. i spoken to people who come from kharkiv. they have left their families behind, their off cell service or power or water and some of these places. they don t know their families are alive because they re seeing imagery. i was interviewing two young women today, and they happen to see the ipad on which we are broadcasting msnbc, so i can see it while i was anchoring, and they saw these images of this destruction. and their hearts were breaking as they were watching it, because they didn t know is that bad. they had run now. but i also saw was a gentleman who had come. he was a deputy mayor of a little town of hungry, but not near where i am. 20 and 50 kilometers from here. he has shown up to