the decision was made, i didn t want to leave it untouched. your expectations are not that high? no, they weren t. with just this one crack at paul s house, detective psalm wanted to make sure they did a thorough search. he called together a team of investigators from various law enforcement agencies. before we served a search warrant, we had a briefing. one of the cops helping him was a detective from a neighboring town. he actually showed us the diagram of the bomb and that s what we re instructed to look for. anything related to that? yes, anything related to bomb making. they arrived enmass right after daybreak, unannounced, of course. paul waited outside while each investigator took a piece of the house, and in they went. i found some manila envelopes, copier and a printer. the problem was, paul s home,
joining us now harry litman, deputy assistant attorney general under president clinton, michael tomaski, and matt miller, former spokesman for attorney general eric holder and an msnbc contributor. thank you to all of you for joining us on a friday night. harry, let me start with you. what do you make of what they ve got on this guy? it took them three days to find him. most people who know about these things were fairly confident they would because bomb making leaves quite a trail. what s your sense of this? well, they ve got a fingerprint, that s big. and there s some suggestion that they already have dna. that s big. but they re going to be getting so much more. they mainly wanted to get him off the street immediately ali. now we have the van, all kinds of social media, friends, search warrants of homes, other people in the rallies. they will be assembling a wealth of evidence over the next several weeks. so i think it s impressive that they so quickly got enough to
found no indications off bomb making but they charged him with the threat and when it went to court the judge and the prosecutor saw it for what it was. he was someone who was sick. at that time he clearly had no indications of carrying out such tavs. it s now 16 years later. his sickness has obviously worsened over the years and they put him on probation and gave him a break. the suspect threatening to blow up a utility in 2002. that was ron who has known cesar sayoc for years. his family inkrnled him to get mental health treatment and hoonever dud. he never showed an interest in politics until president trump ran for office. president trump also urged
license and changed only one symbol on it. the year of his birth. in order the indicate ten years later so he would look you know yes to women that he met. and these are very immature acts. and i recall when i got the phone call, when he was arrested for threatening florida power and light company. and that occurred when he was working with a laundromat. he actually owned it. a small laundromat. and the electricity was turned off. he got so ang riflt he got on the phone, begged them on put on it, they wouldn t, started screaming and then he blurted out. if i load up your office, i m sure you would turn it on real quick. i can make it like worse than 9/11. they hung up on him and of course they called police who came is that investigated. found no indications of bomb making but they charged him with a threat. when it went to court, the judge
devices, couple of them were set on a porch and booby trap detonated, meaning the person that went out to the porch, open it, exploded. also did devices with a trip wire. that was the switch that set off impulses to make the bomb. is it out of the realm of possibility this couldn t be part and parcel of the one we looked at all week, no. but just with what we see now, looking at the investigative tea leaves, it appears to be a different set of bomb making. samantha, the director of the fbi christopher wray says there s a chance more are out there, right? but now that sayoc is in custody, just by the timing of mail delivery, we re going to soon be outside that window that if he is working alone, that there would be more in the system, right? yes, but we re not there. snail mail is called that for a reason. at this point we have not reached the window where anything he may have sent before he was put in prison did not