judiciary committee chairman jerry nadler, and adam schiff that it may now be time to subpoena robert mueller to come before congress and testify publicly? i do. i do. i think, you know, we are grinding through this process, not just with robert mueller, who doesn t want to come to congress because i think he doesn t want to sort of get caught up in the political whirlwind, but we re in that situation with any number of other witnesses and any number of other people who have been subpoenaed. i give nancy pelosi a lot of credit. she s shown a lot of patience. she s won in court over and over again. i imagine that we will continue to win in court. but yes, look, at some point, these processes have to come to an end. and if bob mueller won t come voluntarily, i do think it s important we subpoena him. because as you know, the public polls nationwide show the american public not ready to go ahead with impeachment right now, don t favor impeachment right now. do you think a public heari
but no one is saying he s the worst man in this administration. that s a big but wait a minute, here s what s amazing. i am. except mark meadows and jim jordan, who want him to resign, two key members of the freedom act and i know it s russia related. he doesn t have a friend in if anybody needs a dog in this town, i think it s jeff sessions. does he have a dog? he better get one if he wants a friend. the president wants him out. freedom caucus members want him out. now you have angry governors of washington, california i think that s success in this town. a year ago we would have said that he was possibly the worst appointee in this administration. we re not talking like that anymore. can we remember that donald trump said where s my roy cohn and you have jeff sessions who s now willing to be his roy cohn pursuing investigations of his former political opponent, willing to turn the justice department into a wholly politicized outfit who is there to mollify the ego
i think it depends to a great extend on who gets indicted if this indictment does materialize on monday and what the indictment is for. to the point of one of your previous guests, this scandal has gotten a lot of coverage, but it s going to become a lot more real for a lot of people who don t follow this obsessively. when there are criminal charges and when it s not rumor and argument about whether something bad happened or not, but a criminal case, meeting a standard where they re able to get a grand jury to indict. that will draw a lot of attention. that said, because this like so many special counsel investigations has gotten pretty sprawling, it s possible we ll see sdiindictments for matters t are not closely related to donald trump s and russia s involvement in the election. stuff with paul manafort s finances and the like. if the indictment is peripheral like that, the white house will be able to say, they didn t find anything core on russia on collusion, which is not to say
means getting to the trump family themselves. we also know that this family knows that bob mueller is encroaching on them. so what we ve seen is something very interesting. you have a 29-year-old white house communications director. it is not an entry level job, as you know. this is a very difficult job. and they are serving her up right now. republicans control congress. they control the congressional investigation. and they may go light on how they approach the trump family and hope hicks but bob mueller won t. bob mueller can actually begin to litigate whether or not there s an attorney/client privilege claim that donald trump jr. can reliably assert. i don t think there is but this is a very nuanced area. this is where the operations of the special counsel are very different from congress. it s a side show right now. bob mueller can we ll talk about the caliber of legal advice the trump family may be getting in a moment.