let discuss with rick francona, juliette and bob bair. good to have all of you on to speak about this. juliet to you first, it shows that 53% of americans say that we should not continue the program to settle up to 10,000 syrian refugees. should we stop this program? no, we should no. i think it s incumbent on those of us who believe it s is right thing to do not just morally and ethically but there are security reasons for continuing the program. i need to explain how rigorous it is. the long the long runway it takes for any single syrian refugee to get here, the bio metric testing, the health establish thing, the refugee process that goes on in this
country. and i think that it has national security implications. i don t want to see the security to the other side at this stage. the one reason that the united states is relatively safe compared to france is our long-term commitment to integration and asumlation of those who are not us. we need to continue that and not target refugees as the easy solution for a harder problem. bob, are we safer than france? i agree with juliette 100%. we do a great job at. that s the reason we have not been attacked by the islamic state. we are better off than the french or the germans. we have a classless society and it s easy for arabs to integrate
happened. you know, we there was a certain amount of hysteria when the arab spring started. this all changed. in that sense, the egyptians are right. they are on the front lines in the war on terror. they re in the middle of an insurgen insurgency. they re losing a lot of people. they don t have it under control. and now they re taking a huge hit against terrorism. and we re pushing egypt to the point of turning it into a failed state, which would be a disaster for everybody. but egypt s running this investigation, bob. and you said they re very reticent to say this is a bomb. obviously you don t want to say anything until you re certain. how long does that take for us to get reliable answers. i don t think we will from egypt. i ve watched egyptians over the years for 30 years and they ve never given us any sort of decent intelligence on, you know, internal politics, the muslim brotherhood, all these other movements. they just always been closed
their loved ones. dozens of funerals being held for victims of this crash. let s talk it over with bob bair. what do you make of the fact that the head of the inquiry said, yes, we heard a noise in the last part of the cockpit voice recording. we need to further analyze that. that s generic. it s generic, but the egyptians are reluctant to admit there was a bomb on this plane. it s a catastrophe for their economy. the fact that flights are being canceled into cairo and out is even worse. and they haven t made any arrests. haven t added anything to the investigation. and frankly, they ve had a plane go down before where the pilot took it into the ocean. and until today, they re denying what clearly happened, someone committed suicide in egypt airplane. i m not paying much attention to the egyptians. i think it s all about 95% this was a bomb.
passengers were russian, what is the impact? if russia comes to the conclusion that isis was, indeed, in some way behind this, all bets may be off in terms of their response, both in syria and iraq potentially against isis but also in the sinai peninsula itself. it s not impossible that russia itself could launch air strikes against the isis affiliate in the sinai affiliate. you think that plays into isis s hands. it may because there will be more anger about russians targeting muslims on the ground, potentially, collateral damage to civilians being killed. as bob was saying, this is a very powerful insurgency. this group is believed to have more than 500 fighters over the last couple years. they killed more than 700 egyptian security forces. they killed an american, an oil worker in 2014. they beheaded a croatian, who was in cairo, who was adopted just recently. this is a very powerful isis