happened. you know, we -- there was a certain amount of hysteria when the arab spring started. this all changed. in that sense, the egyptians are right. they are on the front lines in the war on terror. they're in the middle of an insurgen insurgency. they're losing a lot of people. they don't have it under control. and now they're taking a huge hit against terrorism. and we're pushing egypt to the point of turning it into a failed state, which would be a disaster for everybody. >> but egypt's running this investigation, bob. and you said they're very reticent to say this is a bomb. obviously you don't want to say anything until you're certain. how long does that take for us to get reliable answers. >> i don't think we will from egypt. i've watched egyptians over the years for 30 years and they've never given us any sort of decent intelligence on, you know, internal politics, the muslim brotherhood, all these other movements. they just always been closed