playing out before our eyes taking us to another scary place over the past fort night. a criminal investigation into donald trump s handling of classified information looming over the country and both major political parties with an even more significant specter casting a long, shadow in sharp relief. the very real possibility that a former president of the united states could soon be indicted for violating the espionage act or other federal statutes. it is extremely volatile and if donald trump is indeed indicted although that remains a big if, for the moment and we ll move beyond volatility and into more territory that s explosive into where there is a dramatic increase into more political violence than we ve seen already in our republic. in just the last two weeks we ve seen threats against the fbi and law enforcement surging. a pennsylvania man was arrested last week for threatening to kill agents of the federal bureau of investigation and a man armed with a semiautomat
you can t get much detail out of this. and it was approved by a judge. which does tell us something. although not what is under the redaction. so we have this unprecedented clash over federal powers, over the prerogatives of a former president. the suspicion about criminal evidence. all of this is here in the ballpark. and if you ve heard today or tonight, we know everything now and i could tell you, no we don t. we obviously have to be careful about what is redacted. we re learning new things. so i m going to go through the facts with you right now. the road map here that has been released, the affidavit, shows how agent recovered the highly classified documents and then based on that timeline and the information, they saw a grave need to go back into-n to do a search to get the rest of them. they found that the trump had, in the doj view, stolen material that involves secret clandestine human source and intelligence. that is the kind of material that is supposed to stay on
coup-plotting and pathologically duplicitous ex-president to subvert american democrat see and the process of given the persistent power of donald j. trump in the republican party and the depoched and decrepit party, will end the way it did with wyoming congresswoman liz cheney losing in a landslide. cheney s unforgivable sin in the ice of maga voters and a bunch of other republican voters, too, along with team trump cultivated and blessed the candidate who defeated her when it came to her conviction that trump is nothing more than an existential threat to our republic and cheney acknowledged as much. years ago i won this primary with 37% of the vote. i could easily have done the same again. the path was clear.7% of the vo. i could easily have done the same again. the path was clear.3% of the vo. i could easily have done the same again. the path was clear. but it would have required they go along with the lie of the 2720 election, that i would unravel our democratic system
joining us this hour. happy to have you here. quick personnel news, good news, i want to say congratulations to alex wagner, who is going to take over the slot that is now msnbc prime, this is just announced today by msnbc, it is great news, in terms of me, nothing about what i m doing is changing, i m going to be doing monday nights from here on out and here for big news events like i have been, things like the january 6th hearing and the supreme court decision friday on roe v. wade, nothing that i m doing is changing at all. but it is great news that starting late this summer, starting mid august, it is going to be alex wagner in the chair here tuesday through friday night at 9:00 eastern. so congratulations to alex. everybody here thinks this is great news. myself included. again, you re still stuck with me for all of the same things you ve been stuck with me on in recent weeks and months. that won t change. but alex is taking over that msnbc prime spot, it is great news.
subpoenaed to the grand jury two people from the white house counsel s office including the white house counsel himself, but what is standing in the way of getting all of the information that prosecutors want are claims that donald trump is trying to make about executive privilege where he s trying to protect statements that were made to him or that he said on these crucial days that are being investigated. so those claims of executive privilege, that s potentially leading to a court fight where the justice department will try to get access to those statements through these witnesses and that s what these talks are about, lining up the justice department team and trump s team, talking to one another, potentially they could be pitted against each other if this does go to court, but the big picture here is that criminal prosecutors right now are definitely interested in doing fact-finding and locking down what they can about what was said in the white house either by trump or t