first of all, there was no racism in this case. if he wants to train young black men on how to avoid being killed in the city. you can talk about police. police should never kill unjustifiably. i ve put them in jail when that happens. but spend 95% of the time talking about how they re actually going to get killed, which is by another black to avoid that fact, to avoid that fact, i think, is racist. here with reaction to the mayor s war on words, former nypd detective bo deitl, president of the institute of the 21st century can you point to any specific evidence that racism is involved in either case? well, there s a pattern i asked is there any specific evidence. in many cases black communities are targeted. i didn t ask that.
hang on. the way you do, you got to lock in and go for the carotid artery way too macho. it s not just technical. because i will bet you that when we get to see the evidence what the grand jury heard, i bet you they heard a lot about chokehold versus headlocks. dr. baden, you got to examine. first of all i agree that it s silly to go after somebody for selling single cigarettes to a community of people who can t afford to buy a whole pack of cigarettes. $6 in taxes for one pack in new york city. i think the autopsy itself, the medical examiner did a great job on this, 27 pages in the report. and the female she found that there were ten hemorrhages on the inside of the neck, in the muscles of the neck. pe tick yal hemorrhages in the eye, hemorrhage on the tongue. and those are all evidence of neck compression. you re right, chokehold has many
this is a while we re talking i want to take a live shot out of oakland, california that is coming in now. you can see protests have expanded beyond new york city. that s a live shot. we ll go down to the ground there in a few minutes. dr. baden, i saw you wanted to weigh in on this discussion. it may sound technical and like semantics, if one hold is legal and the other is illegal, that s a big distinction. that s a big distinction but in this case doesn t make a difference to me. when we re looking at autopsy findings, whenever we call chokehold, headlock, there s enough pressure on the neck to prevent the blood flow you talked about. right. to prevent air flow. and pressure on the chest and face so that when he s saying i can t breathe he s telling the truth. he said it eleven times. and he died of not being able to breathe. but from the standpoint i understand there s an autopsy, you re going to do this. right. but if a grand jury s looking at this legally a
take guys down scores of times. problem here is he was still talking when he was down. if it was a chokehold, he would have been unconscious on the ground. let s face it, hearts go out to that family. there s a dead guy here. shouldn t have been. but in reality if he put his hand he was being arrested. and the cops are there for a reason. there s calls but for selli inin ining cigaret hang on. the way you do, you got to lock in and go for the carotid artery way too macho. it s not just technical. because i will bet you that when we get to see the evidence what the grand jury heard, i bet you they heard a lot about chokehold versus headlocks. dr. baden, you got to examine. first of all i agree that it s silly to go after somebody for selling single cigarettes to a community of people who can t afford to buy a whole pack of
if he s not giving up, then they can t relinquish their power. they can t allow the suspect to get any kind of, you know, foothold or actually get back on his feet. that s the problem here. and this is what you re talking about. in the transcripts what s the testimony of the officers and the witnesses? all right, mark, thank you. when we come back, we re going to continue why i m so angry in this case. and similarly we re going to examine why the grand jury came to the decision that they did. we have bo deitl, dr. michael baden, all here to weigh in on the decision not to indict. dr. baden actually reviewed garner s autopsy. we ll talk to him about that coming up next. later tonight, our question of the day, has the rev raend al sharpton been irresponsible in how he s handled both the ferguson and new york city grand jury decisions? head on over to facebook.com/handy. you ve give your answer, i ll give you mine coming up at the end of the show.