ah mm mm mm. mm. hello and welcome to was a part as one of the leaders of the indian national lumen famously sad rhythm is not given. it s taken, including the freedom to charge your own course as a people or as a nation. but in the world, us increasingly and deliberately segregated across political economic cultural lines was the price of such freedom. well, to discuss that, i m now enjoying by ross again my fresh, cheap, cheap director of the institute for economic research and innovation at one a university of technology in south africa. professor is great to welcome you here in russian. thank you very much for this opportunity to talk to you. thanks very much. i m not sure that you to be here. now i know that you were born in 1969 in this still a party, it s ruled south africa and i heard you saying that in another interview that you almost feel historically lucky. you have been born to have been brought into this world on the cost of an outgoing era. and that the dawn ov
overture where there wasn t, you know, i listed complaints and, but there was none of that. there was not reaching out. and i think this is what you know, i agree with george when there s such a continuity from 2007 all the way here because we re done, we re moving on and there s not much you can do about the ma, your thoughts. well, i agree. we ve got a condo with the west, but he explained that it was not only in the ship, it was the west. why a change or very strange action that actually brought the world to reach. and even when we talked about the company with the 1st you said that there will be no, you are not going to isolate, also want to cooperate with those companies that haven t been to go against. oh, you know, the, the main street, you know, in the united states and in the european union. and also within said that these kind of colonialism is more sophisticated. it s not what the marxist know denounced in the end of the 19th century. it s not about us being blown
ah ah mm. mm. mm. mm. hello and welcome to wells far as one of the leaders of the indian national. when famously sad rhythm is not given. it s taken, including the freedom to charge your own course as a people or as a nation. but in the world of increasingly and deliberately segregated across political economic, cultural lines. what s the price of such freedom? well, to discuss that i m now enjoying by ross again maharaj cheap, cheap director of the institute for economic research and innovation at twana university of technology in south africa. professor is great to welcome you here in russian. thank you very much for this opportunity to talk to you. thanks very much . i m not sure that you to be here. now, i know that you were born in 1969 in this still a part faith rule. south africa. i heard you saying that in another interview that you almost feel historically lucky you have been born to have been brought into this world on the cost of an outgoing era. and that the dawn
acutely brought home by vaccine the pot it. so what we thought we defeated the autism 1994 to have seen what happened in the last 2 years. an entire continent was excluded from producing the vaccine on the basis that they did not hold intellectual property rights. now, in addition to call that we also now have the war in the ukraine, which at least here in russia, has a much broader conflict than just the charity away taking place. and both of the calamities in a way of changing the system because they covet pandemic already rearranged the way global system economic system was functioning. we re in the ukraine and economic sanctions and counter sanctions are delivering even bigger shocks to that system. do you, how do you think that wealth will be able to absorb with and what kind of a worlds feel we have after after it? so i think it s very important as you raise those 2 issues are big issues for us. but we have to understand that in a 30 should, that even bigger than those
with your friends, with them. are for grammar tomorrow. this is the 2nd storming of maria bushy seen in her life. she survived the horrors of world war 2 is a child with a she think the day t as later, she d say nazi tactics again, this time from ukrainian military, using civilians as human shields. and the once again, she d be thanking russian soldiers for saving her. done with a gosh with sure that they re going to put your life with a you know something i listen with with with i think there was your employer go to my leisure. i do like how do you want is to go with a child the like how about and zanna does a little book, as you said, we could build on a to this for the focus you, what they re gonna do with this comes, you want to, when you are sure this by yourself, so i did the screen. you do you said a one second. are you gonna do you said, or did you book this hot that you know, a foolish for thorn from blue will fall on shirts with ah, in spring 2022, many mario pl res