trump was defeated in 2020 to helping him steal the election overthrowing the loss with hardliner like hawley, trying to abuse the certification and as we learn tonight, set up this fake commission. this dissent tells us a larger and more dangerous story tonight, because ted cruz isn t just some senator. if you heard of him he s very controversial. there s something else politically important about ted cruz i ll do all the facts with you we do the laws, the tapes, but we also do the political realities, and that is that ted cruz was the runner-up in 2016 remember all those candidates trump beat over a dozen he came in second. he had this kind of position of his plurality, and he could build on that. he could try to run again on his own platform trumpism, this danger to the nation, this idea that if you go down that path, you end up with
violence or storming the capitol? did you know about that as early as january 2nd and who else were you talking to about it. it s showing he clearly had a small group huddle, large group huddle, whatever it was, he was talking to other people about it did that group include trump this is stuff that the doj needs to dig into. you just asked another question an investigator wanted to know, which did you speak to mi in the white house we also have to remember that trump was tweeting out january 6th is the day right? he was sending that message out on social media as well. the other thing i have to question with senator cruz is he said he want add plan that was consistent with the constitution, and creating a fake commission after you illegally obstruct the electoral votes of the other states does not sound in law with the constitution or or his sworn
challenging the election trump did lose all those court challenges and when cruz was saying that, what we saw as weak evidence was, and cruz knew it by january, senator cruz was not only bending to trump s plan to vote against certifying the biden win on the 6th, he was actively out plotting and selling a plan in advance as these secret tapes tonight show. cruz was talking to one of the trump s greatest backers maria bartoromo. what i ll play su how he was privately briefing her on what he called a mechanism to force an overthrow or disruption of bide s win by disrupting the
challenge. so at that point it was president-elect biden, and cruz answers this this fake, madup commission he and his trump buddy worse trying to create to bureau kratize a coup that s what they were trying to do that s his answer. that s how they were trying to steal the race the references to fraud, we know he didn t believe in those we have that on tape the judges and fact finding we have in the country didn t find there was that kind of fraud three, that s all just talk any way because they re literally trying to steal it for trump, so all the words in the middle are just the words to get there. i want to be clear about this. we try to go through and take stuff seriously with you you can feel it in america some of this sufficient is catching up with people. there are also those who would look at this tape with this plan and say, ari, this sounds pretty farfetched them sounds unlikely to get anywhere. they might want to dismiss it.
i don t agree with it, victor. i think anytime you re a leader, you have to take responsibility for what is occurring. you know, there were certainly mistakes made in the biden ministrations . i think they will admit that or those will be admitted in the state department document. they had some real disconnect between the military and the state department trying to execute it. and certainly like the film you re showing right now. those kinds of film clip show the most dysfunctional and chaotic, uh, withdrawal from afghanistan, but but it it doesn t implicate the various, uh, administrations, the four administrations that have been in charge of the afghan situation for the last 20 years. so what i m suggesting is that yes, the documents are going to point out failures. but those are not things that you publicized to the general public . i think it s wrong to say the white house document. is blasting trump, even though they