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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20210814 01:15:00

to know. the other thing to know is that the former-u.s. attorney in georgia, the top-federal prosecutor in georgia, a man named bj pak, who suddenly and mysteriously resigned without explanation, right in the middle of trump and jeff clark apparently trying to enact this plot in georgia. as we know, bj pak, this week, testified to the judiciary committee in the senate as part of their investigation into this same series of events. the atlanta journal constitution there reports that, after his senate testimony this week, bj pak is also expected to testify to the january 6th select committee that is investigating the postelection coup attempt. and the agc also reports that bj pak is expected to speak with investigators from the u.s. justice department. i should tell you, bj pak in his testimony on this matter were also invoked this week by georgia democrats who, right now, are trying to sound the alarm. trying to sound a national alarm about republican efforts in

Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20210814 01:16:00

georgia to use these false-fraud claims trump has been taking about the georgia election. to use those false claims, even now, to justify, right now, a partisan-republican takeover of the administration of elections in georgia s largest county. fulton county. which, of course, is a diverse, dynamic, and very democratic stronghold in that state. former-u.s. attorney republican bj pak provided hours of testimony to the u.s. senate judiciary committee. in his testimony, he reaffirmed that investigations into fulton county by state officials and the fbi did not yield any evidence of voter fraud. it simply does not exist. republicans are acting in bad faith because they did not like the results of the election. that s georgia democratic state representative bee nguyen who, this week, stood with her

Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20210814 16:45:00

because nbc news has confirmed that former u.s. attorney in atlanta bj pak testified before the senate judiciary committee this week. you ve been writing extensively about this. what do you think he said in his testimony? from my reporting, and from what your reporters have confirmed, we know he went into that testimony and investigators asked a lot of questions about what was going on in atlanta. fulton county, you know, atlanta s county, was a county that the former president was extremely obsessed with. he felt there were allegations of voter fraud that were credible or that could help him win the election. bj pak quietly pushed back on all of tell me. he told investigators on the senate judiciary committee that not only had his investigators looked into this but state investigators in georgia looked into these claims and had not found evidence to support them but that was not an answer that trump wanted. he also testified that right after this enormous showdown in the oval office

Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20210814 16:46:00

about whether or not the department would intervene in georgia, about whether or not trump would replace the top of the department, right after that meeting was over, and we see this also in emails and notes released by congressional investigators, that the number two official in the department immediately reached out to that u.s. attorney, bj pak, and said call me, it was 10:30 sunday night. pak said it was made clear to him that the president was so upset about georgia, he was not going to stop hammering on georgia, that pak had the choice to quit or be fired, that he was going to be leaving right away, and you see at 7:00 the next morning, he resigns. what s the significance here of a u.s. attorney getting a phone call at 10:00 at night on a sunday saying this is the writing on the wall here, you either need to quit or you re going to be ousted, how significant is that? i think there are two things

Transcripts for CNN Don Lemon Tonight 20210812 06:32:00

georgia, at the time. he, in just two days from there, will be calling raffensperger and saying i just need those 1,100 votes. and he was totally apoplectic that his u.s. attorney wouldn t go along with the lie. so even though donoghue, at justice, knew it was a lie. they called pak up and said the president s gonna fire you. and pak thought, i m gonna resign with dignity. nobody will know about it, then. but now that he s talking to the judiciary committee, they do know exactly why it happened, because the president was fixing to fire him. and why? because he wouldn t support the lie of election fraud in georgia, which he investigated and found no evidence of. yeah. we can hear you, very well. we can t see you well, so we are going to stick with it because what we need most is the information that you ll provide, harry. you point out that a president can fire u.s. attorney for any reason or no reason, at all. but what about a refusal to lie about an election? this is for harry.

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