so we are getting some new information tonight about just how far the former president was willing to go to overturn the election. former-u.s. attorney in atlanta, bj pak, telling senate investigators he resigned in january because trump was considering firing him. according to the new york times, trump wanted pak out because he wouldn t push bogus claims of election fraud in georgia. joining me, now, cnn political commentator, charlie dent. he is a former-republican congressman and former-deputy assistant attorney general, harry litman. good evening, to both of you. harry, i m going to start with you. so, u.s. attorney pak says that he quit because the former president was considering firing him for not getting behind this election-fraud lies. according to the new york times. it was suspicious, at the time. was that part of the attempted coup? i think so. i mean, he was really focused on
> joining me now, john harwood, john avlon, gentlemen, good evening. john, what can you tell us about the testimony of former federal prosecutor bj pak? this is part of a series of inte interviews the committee is doing as democrats on capitol hill are trying to gather what they can in addition to what the select committee is doing about january 6 and what they found was that this trump-appointed u.s. attorney was told by justice department officials he would be fired unless he affirmed trump s claims of voter fraud in georgia which he could
yeah. so so, thanks for that. you know, i was a u.s. attorney, and i got the sack, eventually. and really, in you know, he s not going to try to challenge it. but theoretically, don, you couldn t fire him because you didn t like his race and these are this is protected speech. you say to him, unless you because you won t lie about this, i m gonna fire you. i think it s a technical-constitutional violation. but it doesn t really matter. he resigned before it could happen. and we know that he decided to just act with dignity, rather than go along in any way. nevertheless, what trump was contemplating, i think, was probably unconstitutional. charlie, if what pak is telling this committee is true, you think this is going to become part of the january-6th investigation? well, i certainly hope it does because it it really lays down the predicate of what happened. you know, before january 6th with the president insisted on pushing this false narrative.
how dare you, traitors! while it is unclear who was calling the police traitors, the video was released as evidence in the case against robert geiswine from colorado who has been indicted by a grand jury in d.c. on six counts including using an irritant spray and a baseball bat against u.s. capitol police. i thought they said they weren t armed. some republicans have tried to rewrite the history of that day as some sort of tourist visit or a day filled with hugging and kissing and once again the evidence of what actually happened proves that it was totally not the case. up next, a former u.s. attorney says he quit before trump could fire him and it s all because he wouldn t perpetrate the big lie. stay with us.
almost a cleaning because, you see, it gets in the lungs. remember that? how soon some people forget. tonight, we are also learning more details about the extent of trump s attempted coup. the former-u.s. attorney in atlanta, bj pak, saying that he abruptly quit during trump s move to overturn the election results because he heard trump was going to fire him, anyway. that he apparently believed pak was a so-called never-trumper. a source saying that pak told senate investigators today that he left his job, as trump was pressuring the justice department to play a role in his scheme to claim massive fraud in the election results in georgia. quitting two days after this infamous phone call from trump to georgia s secretary of state, brad raffensperger. so, look. all i want to do is this. i just want to find uh 11,780 votes, which is one more