liability for giuliani, and further evidence of an abuse of power by the president. two threads, they run parallel at the moment. we ll have to see what these guys say. without them it s a harder case to make. giuliani has told cnn he s not aware he s under investigation. he hasn t talked to fbi investigators about this. is there any chance, michael, that the department of justice is hoping that these two individuals may flip on rudy giuliani or bring him into this? let s not call it flip on giuliani so much as i think that the southern district of new york and the new york fbi indicated yesterday in the way they treated these guys with the way they were released on probation to go home in ankle bracelets so they can still talk to one another. they are trying to treat these guys nicely so they will cooperate them. against whom and with respect to what, we don t know. i wouldn t want to say flip on giuliani, we don t know if
continue to appeal to sort of the base, especially when it s not clear what substantively this legislation would do to solve the problems. look, it cuts both ways, right? if the democrats want to win the presidency in 2020, they need t flip, wisconsin, pennsylvania and virginia there are plenty of gun owners who believe in the second amendment a as i believe a former president once said. the more you press in this direction sure you might take in suburban voters to some extent, you are going to turn off a lot of rural voters who care passionately about the second amendment. donald trump won as a supporter of second amendment rights. if he is going to abandon that in 2020 i think it will doom his campaign. bret: what s interesting and obviously these mass shooting events have gotten a lot of attention and they have become epidemic-like. but also not talked about was chicago this weekend. 35 shootings, seven fatalities. it didn t even rise to the
they did nothing wrong. aimed by a former employee. saying the family has nothing to hide. we will seal what happens. heart stopping video with an important message. stop what you are doing as a car drives right off the road and into a pole seeing it flip on to its side. the driver was distracted by texting. no one was seriously hurt in the crash thank goodness. the berlin police department in massachusetts hopes this video will inspire people not to text and drive. wow. someone may have been paid to eavesdrop on your conversation. bloomberg reports facebook had contractors listen to and tribe users messenger audio chat. the social media giant stopped the practice claiming that it only collected data from users who agreed to have their conversations transcribed. this comes just weeks after facebook agreed to pay a $5 billion type over use of personal data.
map. they use the beto o rourke model from the ted cruz senate race. is the way to flip texas answers like that and positions like that? i think if texas flips, leland, texas flips, just because of the change of the population, and i think that s what democrats are counting on. i was in virginia before i came here it s important to button this down. you re in texas on the ground there, you think there s a reasonable chance it does flip, that s pretty big. there s a reasonable chance at some point that it flips. does it flip in 2020? no, i don t think that it flips in 2020. i think texas reelects this president. and pocket book issues that people care about. plus there s a lot of support for trump that you don t hear about it, and people and friends don t sauk talk about it and
those people are either revealed or reveal themselves. we have seen some names before randy talk show host. jerome corsi also has anded as well. i wouldn t be surprised if those names creep up as well. it s not a secret. it s out there in a lot of media reporting. and they have been out there in the public talking about it as well. steve: exit question about it. if you are in the white house and see this news, how big is this? i think the white house i don t think they have anything to worry about. donald trump did not collude with the russians. it s clear as day. i think this is a mueller witch-hunt and they should continue to hammer that. no collusion. no collusion. ainsley: when will the mueller team wrap all this up. lee smith excellent guest had you on before is great. he wrote a great article in the wall street journal about this. i think he is right. i don t think this case is even close to wrapping up. i think they are desperate for someone to flip on something. you c